[gkoberger]

I can't believe I'm about to defend a HR payroll systems.... but I wouldn't call Rippling or Deel "crapware". We use both; they're boring but necessary products, and they do their job well.

[Edit: Added Deel, since we use both! Also hello to the Rippling salesperson who is reading this and is about to reach out to me to convince us to switch.]

[LoganDark]

I think it's Deel that they're calling crapware, because they have to resort to such practices as these

[gkoberger]

We use Deel, too, and it's not "crap" either. It's boring but that's somewhat the point... how "differentiated" can a payroll system get?

(Also, it's hard to call Deel undifferentiated since they were first to market on this product.)