[jisnsm]

>Why am I starting to believe that france is now more culturally shited towards being a new super power in this multi polar world instead of USA.

Because you are reading a lot of destabilisation propaganda online. I recommend you cut your news and social networks consumption a little bit.

The fact that you are beginning to trust FRANCE over something that MACRON did, no less, speaks volumes.

[myko]

It is completely reasonable to see France in that light given recent history of the US - a man who should be in prison for insurrection is the head of the executive.

[diggan]

> a man who should be in prison for insurrection is the head of the executive

I'm no France-lover (hugs from north-east of Spain), but I think this sums up things pretty well. Someone who would have been jailed in any other democracy, is now the head of government, somehow.

Given France's experience with democracy and how hard it is to keep, and America's lack of experience (as a country and democracy), makes me trust France a lot more today.

[jisnsm]

Being Spanish you know very well that our current president should also be in prison. So I will trust your word.

[Imustaskforhelp]

Exactly!!!

This was the exact sentiment I was trying to capture.

Along with the fact that a lot of american politics simply doesn't make much sense to me following it. So that also helps.

the fact that france's president put his stance forward and corrected american's president's blatant lie also contributed just a little in my ignorant tiny world bubble to really considering about france as a more trustworthy country and then reasoning from it to concluding it as true.

There might be many other countries as well who are more trust worthy than france , but certain events which put them in spotlight would be required for the normies like me to find it.

[PoignardAzur]

I mean... I'm not sure we're doing much better. Sarkozy got sentenced for jail time (commuted to house arrest) and there are still people who would vote for him if he ran for president again.

[Imustaskforhelp]

May I clarify my comment.

Trust was maybe a different word , maybe hope is the correct word ? (but doesn't everybody trust hope)

But I trust the people who can make me hope for a better future by actively not submitting to those people who are actively trying to reduce my hope in better future.

There is absolutely no denying that what Trump has done , has absolutely made many people really hopeless. Such levels of incompetency at a presidential level just feels weird. Its as if nobody is seeing how absurd things are , when you connect everything.

Maybe its me , but this presidency feels like a chaos to me as an outsider / foreigner.

America , as it is right now , is a failed state.

I don't understand , don't we trust countries based on their stability and their stance. Such level of open defiance is what makes me trust france that they are more likely to stand to facts than ahem america.

To be honest , maybe I am being too gloom / sad over america. It feels like the world is shifting towards a russo-american , european , chinese influenceced multi polar world.

What america really hated russia was for are just past wars , but britain and france also had these but they collectively became allies after world war.

May I ask , where in my total arguments , am I sounding unreasonable? I thought it doesn't matter where you read the news , I was able to reason to a pessimist outlook of the trump presidency.

Everything is a propaganda , propaganda literally means something along the lines of sharing your ideas.

Listening to propaganda isn't bad , but blindly advocating for it without reason is bad and dismissing other opinions without reason to fulfill your bias is bad.

If you can really counter my reason , then hey , I can be glad that I don't have to be sad about USA.

Also , I watched a video somewhere that we have a limited amount of (he said "fucks" but in the sense of I give a fuck) things you can care and you have to use it wisely.

I really was giving too much care about USA but I have stopped caring now since its not my country anyway and what power do I really have? Maybe it might be my own fault / I read some things without really applying my own reason.

I am sorry if it offends people but this is my honest opinion America has fallen in my eyes. And there is nothing I can do to change that , so why even care about america?

[HumanOstrich]

Why do you put spaces before commas? It's unnecessary and makes your writing obnoxious to read.

[megamorf]

Seconded, it’s really irritating

[Imustaskforhelp]

Noted. Mostly I try it to create space / distinguish the comma, I think It has been ingrained in me for quite some time. I think I misunderstood the rule of space after comma to include it before comma as well.

[jisnsm]

I am European. I know who Macron is. I know what he does. If one sees Macron as something other than someone who is willing to sell out his country for his masters, that seems unreasonable to me. If the hope of Europe is put on someone like Macron we know that Europe is hopeless. (I think it is)

[yujzgzc]

Care to elaborate on what you mean by "his masters"?

[Imustaskforhelp]

Firstly, you raise good points , so can you please elaborate?

also , whom Do you actually put hope on Europe?

> UK actively tries censorship against apple encryption etc.

Yes there are countries like germany whose people are really nice ,and I don't mean to offend any european but maybe its my own fault , but I don't know the name of german prime minister (or is it president?) , yes I can search it , but quite frankly , though I have more knowledge about all the countries and somewhat their borders etc. in europe , I don't remember their politicians except Macron.

It truly shows my ignorance but I just follow world affairs and I don't see many references to other presidents but rather their countries.

I may be wrong , I usually am , but judging from your tone , to me it seems that you wouldn't prefer right / conservative politicans .

Macron is a liberal (I fact checked using wiki) , and you are being dissatisfied with liberal politics considering selling his country for his masters comment?

I still don't understand this comment though , forgive my ignorance and please share references.

I am not sure if I am violating with hacker news comments by being too political and I am sorry for that but I am genuinely interested what your political leanings are.

To me , as a self acclaimed centrist who just believes in georgism and certain measures , these are only some moderately radical , not completely radical like socialism steps that I wish for a govt.

To be honest , I have this feeling that all politicians are evil and you have to choose the leser evil. I can think of running into politics but as a common man , its gonna be quite hard and you really have to engineer yourself for it which can be quite hard for normies so it attracts a lot of people who expect something out of running into politics and not for the good will of the people.

[jisnsm]

I think Europe is hopeless. It’s an old continent full of old people who have a deeply vested interest in maintaining the status quo. What Europe needs is a revolution of the young, but demographically that is impossible to happen. The old are willing to sell the young cheap if it means their pensions get increased by 0.1%. That is the source of all the problems in the continent, everything stems from that. From out of control immigration to skyrocketing rent prices.

Choosing the lesser evil doesn’t cut it. You are still choosing and being complicit with evil. Siding with evil is Wrong. Relativism is a disease. Evil is evil.

[Imustaskforhelp]

"I think Europe is hopeless. It’s an old continent full of old people who have a deeply vested interest in maintaining the status quo"

By this , do you mean the Average age of a person or birth rate or what exactly , because I think europe doesn't have those issues.

Are you mentioning the fact that Europe has power vested in the old. Doesn't everybody ? Maybe you are mentioning this in the fact that europe doesn't have a startup culture like silicon valley which can give newcomers (young passionate people) a incentive.

I definitely have some points over relativism and though I don't necessarily agree with that , I think we can first agree to discuss about what you mean by the old people comment.

By status quo , what do you mean exactly ?

[jisnsm]

Look at population pyramids. Europe is old.

Most people are looking up to retirement and their pensions. The system is unsustainable and predatory on young people. They pay an overwhelming amount of taxes to sustain this system. It also needs massive immigration which causes severe security and cultural problems, but they don’t care as long as that guarantees they will get their pension.

Same about housing. It’s old people who own houses. They vote so new housing doesn’t get built as to keep the high value of their houses. They don’t care that young people can’t afford rent.

Many other examples you can think of probably. It’s a society that caters to the old. The young get screwed. And there’s nothing they can do because they are outnumbered and that will only get worse.

This is the status quo. A society that functions like this is dead.

[megamorf]

Space goes after the comma, not in front of it.