[jisnsm]

I am European. I know who Macron is. I know what he does. If one sees Macron as something other than someone who is willing to sell out his country for his masters, that seems unreasonable to me. If the hope of Europe is put on someone like Macron we know that Europe is hopeless. (I think it is)

[yujzgzc]

Care to elaborate on what you mean by "his masters"?

[Imustaskforhelp]

Firstly, you raise good points , so can you please elaborate?

also , whom Do you actually put hope on Europe?

> UK actively tries censorship against apple encryption etc.

Yes there are countries like germany whose people are really nice ,and I don't mean to offend any european but maybe its my own fault , but I don't know the name of german prime minister (or is it president?) , yes I can search it , but quite frankly , though I have more knowledge about all the countries and somewhat their borders etc. in europe , I don't remember their politicians except Macron.

It truly shows my ignorance but I just follow world affairs and I don't see many references to other presidents but rather their countries.

I may be wrong , I usually am , but judging from your tone , to me it seems that you wouldn't prefer right / conservative politicans .

Macron is a liberal (I fact checked using wiki) , and you are being dissatisfied with liberal politics considering selling his country for his masters comment?

I still don't understand this comment though , forgive my ignorance and please share references.

I am not sure if I am violating with hacker news comments by being too political and I am sorry for that but I am genuinely interested what your political leanings are.

To me , as a self acclaimed centrist who just believes in georgism and certain measures , these are only some moderately radical , not completely radical like socialism steps that I wish for a govt.

To be honest , I have this feeling that all politicians are evil and you have to choose the leser evil. I can think of running into politics but as a common man , its gonna be quite hard and you really have to engineer yourself for it which can be quite hard for normies so it attracts a lot of people who expect something out of running into politics and not for the good will of the people.

[jisnsm]

I think Europe is hopeless. It’s an old continent full of old people who have a deeply vested interest in maintaining the status quo. What Europe needs is a revolution of the young, but demographically that is impossible to happen. The old are willing to sell the young cheap if it means their pensions get increased by 0.1%. That is the source of all the problems in the continent, everything stems from that. From out of control immigration to skyrocketing rent prices.

Choosing the lesser evil doesn’t cut it. You are still choosing and being complicit with evil. Siding with evil is Wrong. Relativism is a disease. Evil is evil.

[Imustaskforhelp]

"I think Europe is hopeless. It’s an old continent full of old people who have a deeply vested interest in maintaining the status quo"

By this , do you mean the Average age of a person or birth rate or what exactly , because I think europe doesn't have those issues.

Are you mentioning the fact that Europe has power vested in the old. Doesn't everybody ? Maybe you are mentioning this in the fact that europe doesn't have a startup culture like silicon valley which can give newcomers (young passionate people) a incentive.

I definitely have some points over relativism and though I don't necessarily agree with that , I think we can first agree to discuss about what you mean by the old people comment.

By status quo , what do you mean exactly ?

[jisnsm]

Look at population pyramids. Europe is old.

Most people are looking up to retirement and their pensions. The system is unsustainable and predatory on young people. They pay an overwhelming amount of taxes to sustain this system. It also needs massive immigration which causes severe security and cultural problems, but they don’t care as long as that guarantees they will get their pension.

Same about housing. It’s old people who own houses. They vote so new housing doesn’t get built as to keep the high value of their houses. They don’t care that young people can’t afford rent.

Many other examples you can think of probably. It’s a society that caters to the old. The young get screwed. And there’s nothing they can do because they are outnumbered and that will only get worse.

This is the status quo. A society that functions like this is dead.

[Imustaskforhelp]

Basically housing & pensions ? Don't they pay for the pensions from their own money, something like Social Security?

Housing is a problem in every country and I totally agree about that. I myself, really like the georgist philosophy of economy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgism

I doubt if this system really is broken. Catering to the old people's pensions so that they can live and unlike america's social security system which was recently cut by doge, which impacts every old person. I think it's decent? What suggestions do you think could help with the pensions scheme

[megamorf]

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