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by imachine1980_ 461 days ago
this literally happens in mexico, monterrey in 2022 during biggest drought in the century, public supply was shut down while coca-cola keep producing soft drink from that reservoir, they end-up give some percentage back after a protest.

https://www.jornada.com.mx/2022/08/06/estados/022n1est

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Wow, I try to come up with an exaggerated hypothetical and it turns out to be a real example. We live in a ridiculous world.
> We live in a ridiculous world.

Let The Market™ decide on access to drinking water:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_privatization

Look up artisanal oil refining.
That's why I haven't taken life so seriously and been as uptight about things in recent years; because life sure as hell doesn't take us serious lol
I need to try out this line on my manager in stand-up later today.
Yes, that'll get you right.
Your hypothetical involved Coca-Cola directing the service cutoff. It doesn't sound like that was real.
We live in societies where private corporations are
Late-stage capitalism - the future is now.
That’s not literally the same thing, it was a protest over them for not “connect wells of their property to the public service supply network.”

Which isn’t something I’d want random companies to be doing, and a figurative drop in the bucket.

It's the same aquifer though, right?
If the factory had simply shut down without hooking up their infrastructure, the area still would have had the exact same short term issues.

The issue was arguably a lack of wells in an extreme situation, not a lack of water in the aquifer.

Aquifers are not infinite in capacity, so it's a valid point.
Again not what this was about.

If the area can’t support the factories water use then shut down the factory permanently. Wanting to hook up to its infrastructure is all about a lack of public infrastructure.

Many aquifers are over used, but that’s a long term problem and has nothing to do with a drought in a single year.

One drop in an empty bucket is infinitely more water.
> One drop in an empty bucket is infinitely more water.

No multiply 0 by infinity and you don’t get one drop, ie 1/0 is undefined.

Further it wasn’t an empty bucket.

In this case, as bucket content aproaches 0 drops, 1 drop becomes infinitely more, at least in calculus.

Limits in calculus: "When a real function can be expressed as a fraction whose denominator tends to zero, the output of the function becomes arbitrarily large, and is said to "tend to infinity" For example, the reciprocal function, f ( x ) = 1/x tends to infinity as x tends to 0.

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero

Tends to infinity != infinity. Also, the fundamental theory of calculus requires a continuous function.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_theorem_of_calculu...

You think it's possible for a bucket to contain a negative amount of water?

I should note that the product of zero and infinity being an indeterminate form is actually a result about the product of an infinitesimal (of small but indefinite magnitude) and an infinite value. If when you say "zero", you actually mean "zero", there is no ambiguity: zero is more infinitesimal than any infinite value is infinite, and the product of zero with anything, including an infinitely large value, is zero.

Are you in an alternate dimension where Snow Crash literally happened?!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash

This type of crazy shit makes me love Canada even more
Its one of the reasons why I am a market based socialist.

The essentials of living should be state owned, and provided as inexpensively or freely as part of being here. And when that doesn't completely work, significant controls be put in place to prevent undue capitalization/financial ideation.

The next tier should be a middle ground of intermediate importance, that companies can fulfill, but with modest controls to allow suitable profit and growth.

The final tier is the new and not-required level. This is the new stuff, the crazy tech. Low/no laws, let everyone in this realm go crazy and experiment. The skies the limit.

But water? This is beyond the pale. And revolutions have gone on for this before.

I might've got a bad translation, but :

> the parastatal Water and Drainage Services of Monterrey

Isn't that already the state owning the water supply?