[dalemhurley]

Batteries included very opinionated way of building amazing things.

That said you can choose to go your completely own way and ignore the Laravel way. But good luck with hiring.

I think Laravel is the best framework for getting an idea going, to MVP to MMP to scale. It just works.

Purists hate it because it is PHP and they still think it is 1999. They also hate that there is the “Laravel way”, even though you can completely ignore it.

Laravel is what the non-cool kids use to ship.

[panstromek]

I wouldn't consider it that opinionated, there's many ways to do the same thing. I'd say there's implementation for most design patterns you'd want to use in this context, so you can choose the style pretty much within the boundaries of the framework.

[leetnewb]

Laravel seems to get a lot of hate from within the PHP community as well. I suppose every framework in use has its detractors.

[gjsman-1000]

Who, the one guy pledging Trongate, or the people in the Symfony camp?

I assure you React gets plenty of hate from the JavaScript community - enough to spawn over a dozen competitors. At some point, community love/hate is irrelevant.

[leetnewb]

People in the Symfony camp want less magic. There is also a lot of activity around Tempest.

[dalemhurley]

Is it really magic? I did some Java dev and that is full on "magic" especially Quarkus.