[gjsman-1000]

Who, the one guy pledging Trongate, or the people in the Symfony camp?

I assure you React gets plenty of hate from the JavaScript community - enough to spawn over a dozen competitors. At some point, community love/hate is irrelevant.

[leetnewb]

People in the Symfony camp want less magic. There is also a lot of activity around Tempest.

[dalemhurley]

Is it really magic? I did some Java dev and that is full on "magic" especially Quarkus.