[taylodl]

This administration has adopted a blitzkrieg approach, fully aware that our system of checks and balances requires time to respond. Their apparent goal is to inflict as much damage as possible before legal challenges can be mounted. Notably, Congress seems complicit in this blitzkrieg, and it appears they have employed Musk as their patsy. I wonder what Musk thinks of this role?

When this is all over, we must seriously consider a Constitutional Convention. It's been 236 years since the Constitution was ratified and adopted, and Trump has exposed significant shortcomings. The next iteration of the Constitution should focus on imposing limits on the executive branch. As a single individual, a rogue president can cause substantial harm in a short period.

[moshun]

If you’ve read Project 2025, which is the blueprint being followed to the letter, you know this administration intends to fully dismantle US government and it’s democracy as quickly as possible. Ideally, so fast there is no time to mount a defense, resistance or even general understanding that it’s happening.

Purges of anyone who would object in the government, open defiance of any checks and balances, mass arrests, full penetration of nearly every significant and highly secure digital infrastructure, and the head of state literally referring to himself as the king.

In any other country, we would call this a coup.

[Tadpole9181]

> When this is all over

I really wish I shared the optimism. Trump is talking about taking over USPS directly. The new head of the FBI just announced he wants to send agents after "legacy media". We had an EO saying the president is the sole arbiter of truth in the Executive and installs Apparatchiks into each department for overseeing compliance. And then the official white house communications channel said "long live the King". Republicans are looking at lifting the term limit for him.

In 2020, Trump directed a mob to overthrow the US government to prevent the ratification of an election he lost. In return, SCOTUS granted him absolute immunity for "official acts" that they get to define on an arbitrary basis.

I really think it's over this time. He once told an audience of Christians that if they voted for him, they never had to vote again. Yeah...

[hiddencost]

I think secession is likely the only way out.

[goatlover]

Musk likely has his own motivations. Who calls a Constitutional Convention? Would would you need both parties to agree? Does it take a majority of the states to make it happen? There is an amendment process, but a new Convention would go beyond that. Seems difficult to get the red and blue parts of the US to agree on anything that substatial.

[throwway120385]

I would do that if the delegates were actually interested in ratifying something that serves everyone rather than entrenching the power in the hands of a few people. I don't trust the Republican Party as it is organized today to do that, based on the actions of their president and their senate and house.

[Der_Einzige]

The last thing that we want is a constitutional convention.

The american populace just gave trump and right wing authoritarianism a "strong" democratic mandate (don't act like ~2% isn't HUGE in modern elections). He's actually getting more popular in the face of his current "deconstruction of the nation state". You might try to meme this away as "political honeymoon" but I'm sure that this is durable.

https://abcnews.go.com/538/trump-popular/story?id=117620918

https://www.vox.com/trump-administration/395804/trump-mandat...

Right now, if you hold a constitutional convention, you're getting to get a whole lot of the sheep further voting for wolves, and you can kiss everything you love about "liberalism" goodbye from existing within the united states.

Americans hate empathy, compassion, precieved "beta" weakness, and helping our allies. We also learned this election that Mexican immigrants really hate immigrants from the rest of south and Latin America, and that those same Mexican immigrants hated precieved "wokeness" so much they'd literally mass abandon catholocism and mass convert to evangelical Protestantism over it. The American people want a boot on their face to lick. The people will vote for Trump's agenda. Democrats are in shambles with zero real leadership and no path forward.

[derbOac]

So for one thing, the popular vote differential was less than 2%:

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/elections/2024

It's also not that large historically speaking:

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5094602-a-landslide-jus...

Also, his popularity has been dropping, even among voters who voted for him:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-approval-rating-slip...

Finally, a lot of voters seem to be disapproving of what he's doing even if they don't disapprove of him. DOGE is becoming unpopular for example, even among people who support Trump.

I agree with your skepticism about a constitutional convention, but I also think something of that scale is necessary. I don't see how the US can continue on this path with blatant disregard for the constitution.

From my perspective, the problem currently isn't with the US constitution per se. The problem is people ignoring it. Maybe that's part of the same problem, but it seems to me any legal system breaks down when everyone is ignoring the law.

[Der_Einzige]

The moment that trump gets a single morsel of a victory related to territory expansion he will go on a victory tour which will seal his popularity for the rest of his presidency and movement. He might actually get panama or Greenland, which (Greenland especially) will have him lionized as a modern Regan by voters forever. Manifest Destiny never came close to dying.

I repeat, you will not like one bit what a 2nd constitutional convention will do. Kiss birthright citizenship goodbye. Embrace a constitutional ban on same sex marriage and late term abortions. You'll get far worse than this.

[dragonwriter]

> lionized as a modern Regan

Someone so popular, well-known, and memorable that people will continually call him by the name of one of his Chiefs of Staff?

[goatlover]

The courts enforce the Constitution, and it remains to be seen whether the Trump administration is willing to defy the courts. That's what brings about a Constitutional crisis.

[dragonwriter]

> The courts enforce the Constitution, and it remains to be seen whether the Trump administration is willing to defy the courts.

No, the Trump Administration has been defying the courts for a while now on the various spending cutoffs against which orders have been issued, so whether they are willing to defy them is no longer in question, how far remains to be seen, I guess.

[tzs]

49.8% of the popular vote is not a mandate.