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by Der_Einzige 479 days ago
The last thing that we want is a constitutional convention.

The american populace just gave trump and right wing authoritarianism a "strong" democratic mandate (don't act like ~2% isn't HUGE in modern elections). He's actually getting more popular in the face of his current "deconstruction of the nation state". You might try to meme this away as "political honeymoon" but I'm sure that this is durable.

https://abcnews.go.com/538/trump-popular/story?id=117620918

https://www.vox.com/trump-administration/395804/trump-mandat...

Right now, if you hold a constitutional convention, you're getting to get a whole lot of the sheep further voting for wolves, and you can kiss everything you love about "liberalism" goodbye from existing within the united states.

Americans hate empathy, compassion, precieved "beta" weakness, and helping our allies. We also learned this election that Mexican immigrants really hate immigrants from the rest of south and Latin America, and that those same Mexican immigrants hated precieved "wokeness" so much they'd literally mass abandon catholocism and mass convert to evangelical Protestantism over it. The American people want a boot on their face to lick. The people will vote for Trump's agenda. Democrats are in shambles with zero real leadership and no path forward.

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So for one thing, the popular vote differential was less than 2%:

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/elections/2024

It's also not that large historically speaking:

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5094602-a-landslide-jus...

Also, his popularity has been dropping, even among voters who voted for him:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-approval-rating-slip...

Finally, a lot of voters seem to be disapproving of what he's doing even if they don't disapprove of him. DOGE is becoming unpopular for example, even among people who support Trump.

I agree with your skepticism about a constitutional convention, but I also think something of that scale is necessary. I don't see how the US can continue on this path with blatant disregard for the constitution.

From my perspective, the problem currently isn't with the US constitution per se. The problem is people ignoring it. Maybe that's part of the same problem, but it seems to me any legal system breaks down when everyone is ignoring the law.

The moment that trump gets a single morsel of a victory related to territory expansion he will go on a victory tour which will seal his popularity for the rest of his presidency and movement. He might actually get panama or Greenland, which (Greenland especially) will have him lionized as a modern Regan by voters forever. Manifest Destiny never came close to dying.

I repeat, you will not like one bit what a 2nd constitutional convention will do. Kiss birthright citizenship goodbye. Embrace a constitutional ban on same sex marriage and late term abortions. You'll get far worse than this.

> lionized as a modern Regan

Someone so popular, well-known, and memorable that people will continually call him by the name of one of his Chiefs of Staff?

The courts enforce the Constitution, and it remains to be seen whether the Trump administration is willing to defy the courts. That's what brings about a Constitutional crisis.
> The courts enforce the Constitution, and it remains to be seen whether the Trump administration is willing to defy the courts.

No, the Trump Administration has been defying the courts for a while now on the various spending cutoffs against which orders have been issued, so whether they are willing to defy them is no longer in question, how far remains to be seen, I guess.

49.8% of the popular vote is not a mandate.