[zkmon]

There is no causality, what so ever. The perceived causality is built backwards, only to make something appear sensible. Every event in this universe contributes as a cause to every other event in the universe. It's like fluid flow. Every molecule of the fluid affects the movement of every other molecule. The world evolves in a fluid motion, not through isolated causal chains.

[Matumio]

If you read the mathematical theory of causality (e.g. Pearl), you'll learn that you must have the ability to make interventions "from outside" (at least in theory) before you can talk about causality. You have to define what is "inside" the system you study.

If you define everything to be "inside", then causality disappears because intervention disappears.

[adrian_b]

Tell that to one who gives you a punch in the face, that there is no causal relationship between his desire to punch you and your bloody nose :-)

[zkmon]

They just get a couple of harder punch back. But you missed the point in your rush to make a dramatic comment. It's not about how someone would interpret the causality or how they react. It is about about how a set of events can't be considered as an isolated system of chain of causally related things, disconnected from other things. If you like to think about it in terms of punches, I think you would get lots of them.

[bowsamic]

The Scottish man still speaks it seems