[dylan604]

but to what point? to see if they could? but if you could, why give up your "0-day"? now they know there are saboteurs beyond just suspecting or worrying about it. what did they achieve? causing the Germans to spend some money or repairs? if this was a shooting war, then okay, this is as good as a bomb as the ship is not able to join the fight. but there's not a shooting war, so what did this actually achieve?

i just don't understand the point of revealing a weakness by exploiting it unnecessarily like this

[rich_sasha]

Germany probably needs to rearm aggressively, given what Russia is doing, but doesn't have the society buy in to spend money on armed forced (or rather, doesn't have the buy in to spend less on other things).

So publishing this kind of thing might mobilize the society and convince them the risks are real.

[motorest]

> Germany probably needs to rearm aggressively, given what Russia is doing, but doesn't have the society buy in to spend money on armed forced (or rather, doesn't have the buy in to spend less on other things).

In spite of Russia's propaganda and continuous subversion attack on Germany's political leadership, currently we're seeing polls showing around 70% supporting Germany's military aid to Ukraine. It might not be a uphill battle to have Germany's population invested in investing in their defense.

[ltk12312]

One biased ZDF poll from the German state television. Here is another (50% against):

https://www.ipsos.com/de-de/jeder-zweite-deutsche-gegen-weit...

50% of Ukrainians want negotiations:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/653495/half-ukrainians-quick-ne...

The majority of comments in German newspapers is against continuing the war.

[motorest]

> One biased ZDF poll from the German state television.

Why do you blindly assert it is biased?

> Here is another (50% against):

That should be framed into context, specifically how for the last year Russia has been pumping industrial levels of propaganda onto the world in general and Germany in particular.

https://www.dw.com/en/russian-disinformation-is-growing-in-g...

All these sudden calls for disarmament and pushing Ukraine to capitulate don't happen organically when the same belligerent part also starts to target you specifically. They take place when you're enduring a constant blast from a firehouse of falsehoods over genetically engineered gay Nazi soldiers from Ukraine taking your jobs and increasing the price of eggs.

I for one was handed over a very peculiar anti-NATO protest leaflet, which said nothing more than "Bow to God, not to the media. Say no to NATO."

This is how far and how desperate the anti-europe propaganda is willing to go to erode public trust on such specific topics.

So no wonder public sentiment on their own self defense is being eroded over time. This is by design, and a part of the whole war.

[Vilian]

That newly created account was just made to spread misinformation

[ordu]

I don't understand either. But I have a hypothesis, that they do it to dilute the definition of the war. Like if 15 years ago they did something like that, it was probably seen as a declaration of a war. But not now, not it is just headlines in newspapers. The more they do it, the more they will be able to get away with. Like invading Poland, while saying "there is no invasion and it is someone else invading not us", and European politicians will eat any such shit just to avoid declaring a war. They do it right now, but they must be trained to eat bigger shit to swallow an invasion to EU or NATO country.

[Paradigma11]

Because some guy on telegram answered their recruitment drive and this was the only use they had for him?

From my understanding Russias security services and adjacent Oligarchs are not monolithic and they love to do stuff like that. The intention is to bring it as a present to the Zar and curry favor while keeping the windows away.

[blakehawkins]

You and I do not know about what foreign intelligence knows about the imminent usage of German warships