[motorest]

> Germany probably needs to rearm aggressively, given what Russia is doing, but doesn't have the society buy in to spend money on armed forced (or rather, doesn't have the buy in to spend less on other things).

In spite of Russia's propaganda and continuous subversion attack on Germany's political leadership, currently we're seeing polls showing around 70% supporting Germany's military aid to Ukraine. It might not be a uphill battle to have Germany's population invested in investing in their defense.

[ltk12312]

One biased ZDF poll from the German state television. Here is another (50% against):

https://www.ipsos.com/de-de/jeder-zweite-deutsche-gegen-weit...

50% of Ukrainians want negotiations:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/653495/half-ukrainians-quick-ne...

The majority of comments in German newspapers is against continuing the war.

[motorest]

> One biased ZDF poll from the German state television.

Why do you blindly assert it is biased?

> Here is another (50% against):

That should be framed into context, specifically how for the last year Russia has been pumping industrial levels of propaganda onto the world in general and Germany in particular.

https://www.dw.com/en/russian-disinformation-is-growing-in-g...

All these sudden calls for disarmament and pushing Ukraine to capitulate don't happen organically when the same belligerent part also starts to target you specifically. They take place when you're enduring a constant blast from a firehouse of falsehoods over genetically engineered gay Nazi soldiers from Ukraine taking your jobs and increasing the price of eggs.

I for one was handed over a very peculiar anti-NATO protest leaflet, which said nothing more than "Bow to God, not to the media. Say no to NATO."

This is how far and how desperate the anti-europe propaganda is willing to go to erode public trust on such specific topics.

So no wonder public sentiment on their own self defense is being eroded over time. This is by design, and a part of the whole war.

[Vilian]

That newly created account was just made to spread misinformation