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by nottorp 495 days ago
You're designing the controls for the area you live in and for your driving patterns now.

There's some famous electric car manufacturer that did the same. His products were unusable in some locales even before he went all political.
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robertlagrant 495 days ago
BMW's first iteration of iDrive was very ill-received, and so they improved it. I think launching a global car brand is pretty difficult, even if you don't like the guy.
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nottorp 495 days ago
But I test drove a Tesla and besides the stupid tablet controls the smart turn stalks couldn't hold a turn signal when turning left at a crossroads that wasn't at 90 degrees. That's life threatening if you ask me.

No, I don't need to know Musk's politics to avoid his cars.

Of course, it's well known that BMWs come without a turn stalk so maybe it seems normal if you compare those two brands :)

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amluto 495 days ago
My biggest objection to modern smart turn signal stalks is that you can’t turn the turn signal off easily. Sometimes the signal is on, I want it off, and there simply is no way to do it reliably. The old latching stalks could be moved to the center position, and the signal would turn off every time.
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nottorp 495 days ago
With the Tesla i couldn't keep it on to turn left at something like 30 to 45 degrees and at the same time maneuver to the lane reserved for taking that left. Which required turning the wheel right a bit.

Since I was test driving, I just moved forward instead.

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tekknik 495 days ago
On a Tesla you do exactly the same, push the stalk back to center. It’s a little confusing at first but so is one pedal driving.
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amluto 494 days ago
What generation Tesla?

On the originals, sure. The stock physically latches away from the center position when the signal is on. Works great.

On some of the newest ones, there is a left signal button and a right signal button. I think that, if you are signaling right and push the left button and you don’t lose the race against the automatic end of signaling, then you end up not signaling. This is both modal and racy.

On the intermediate models I’ve tried, I’m moderately confident that the stick always rests in the center position. You can’t push it toward center because it’s already there.

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tekknik 494 days ago
It’s the generation before juniper, or the latest currently shipping of the model y.

I tick it to the left it stays on until i tick it back to the center. it doesn’t stay lock to the left until i complete the turn, this is a key difference.

it’s really a nonissue. you have enough time to cancel a lane change with FSD running.

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