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by willbdavenport 486 days ago
If I needed a reminder to never buy a Jeep
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It won't take long for all of the the other brands to follow suit. Hopefully jeep patented the idea.
Is Jeep's reputation the same in Europe?

I've been thinking of making a "sentiment database" for car brands where users share their personal, subjective view of a car make/model. I'm sure something like this probably already exists.

According to [1] Jeep is the 24th-best-selling car brand in Europe.

Their sales of 11.4k cars in October put them just between Mazda (12.3k cars) and Porsche (10.3k cars) with roughly 1% market share.

But they are at least competing in the market - some brands like Chevy, Chrysler and Subaru don't even make the top 25.

Of course many of these brands are ultimately owned by the same multinationals. Stellantis-owned Jeep, Dodge and Ram brands aren't doing well in Europe, but their Opel, Peugeot, Citroën, Vauxhall, Alfa Romeo and Fiat brands are selling just fine.

[1] https://www.jato.com/resources/media-and-press-releases/volk...

This shows the durability of brands despite the buyouts of the last few decades that have collapsed them all into the same car company. I really do not like this trend, I think it's been bad for innovation and consumers. Real innovation has had to come from outside - from China, such as startup BYD ("build your dream", previously Xi'an Qinchuan Automobile Co).

> Opel, Peugeot, Citroën, Vauxhall, Alfa Romeo and Fiat

All of those had long separate histories before Stellantis. Although when I checked Vauxhall/Opel (basically the same cars except Vauxhall is the UK branding) have been GM subsidiaries since the 1920s!

PSA Peugeot Citroën merger was in 1976.

Daimler-Benz + Chrysler merger was in 1998.

Fiat Chrysler merger was in 2014.

Stellatis was the merger of PSA Peugeot Citroën and Fiat Chrysler in 2021.

> are selling just fine.

Is it? I thought it was in deep troubles.

Well, I don't know what counts as success really.

But if Peugeot sold 61k cars in Europe, Opel/Vauxhall 31k, Citroen 23k and Fiat 18k the group overall is much better placed in the EU than Jeep's sales of 11.4k would imply.

It's called the JD Power survey: https://driving.ca/auto-news/awards-surveys/vehicles-problem...

(an owner survey; rating the brand of a car you don't own is so subjective as to be of very limited use except to car marketers)

My immediate response was “they still make those?!”, but they actually still seem to be on sale here! Not sure I’ve seen one in the last decade or so; make of that what you will.
No, but the parent company is huge and makes some of the most popular brands - Citroen, Peugeot, Fiat, Open, Vauxhall.
CR called Jeep the worst car brand in America.
Tesla is now fighting hard for this title.
> "In-dash advertising is here and Stellantis, the parent company of Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler, and Ram, beat everyone to further enshittification,"

So that's why Stellantis is testing this with Jeep: Nothing to lose.

Jeep is a solid car, now it seems it's just being mismanaged badly.
Presumably the ad will be a reminder to perhaps buy another Jeep.
Nothing says Jeep more than "hey if it ain't broke, buy an extended warranty"
“There’s only one Jeep”, because the rest of them fell apart.
Friends don't let friends drive Jeeps.
Are Jeep drivers friendless?
Friends Don't Let Friends Drive Drunk PSA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ_0AwM93j4