[petargyurov]

Is Jeep's reputation the same in Europe?

I've been thinking of making a "sentiment database" for car brands where users share their personal, subjective view of a car make/model. I'm sure something like this probably already exists.

[michaelt]

According to [1] Jeep is the 24th-best-selling car brand in Europe.

Their sales of 11.4k cars in October put them just between Mazda (12.3k cars) and Porsche (10.3k cars) with roughly 1% market share.

But they are at least competing in the market - some brands like Chevy, Chrysler and Subaru don't even make the top 25.

Of course many of these brands are ultimately owned by the same multinationals. Stellantis-owned Jeep, Dodge and Ram brands aren't doing well in Europe, but their Opel, Peugeot, Citroën, Vauxhall, Alfa Romeo and Fiat brands are selling just fine.

[1] https://www.jato.com/resources/media-and-press-releases/volk...

[pjc50]

This shows the durability of brands despite the buyouts of the last few decades that have collapsed them all into the same car company. I really do not like this trend, I think it's been bad for innovation and consumers. Real innovation has had to come from outside - from China, such as startup BYD ("build your dream", previously Xi'an Qinchuan Automobile Co).

> Opel, Peugeot, Citroën, Vauxhall, Alfa Romeo and Fiat

All of those had long separate histories before Stellantis. Although when I checked Vauxhall/Opel (basically the same cars except Vauxhall is the UK branding) have been GM subsidiaries since the 1920s!

PSA Peugeot Citroën merger was in 1976.

Daimler-Benz + Chrysler merger was in 1998.

Fiat Chrysler merger was in 2014.

Stellatis was the merger of PSA Peugeot Citroën and Fiat Chrysler in 2021.

[gpderetta]

> are selling just fine.

Is it? I thought it was in deep troubles.

[michaelt]

Well, I don't know what counts as success really.

But if Peugeot sold 61k cars in Europe, Opel/Vauxhall 31k, Citroen 23k and Fiat 18k the group overall is much better placed in the EU than Jeep's sales of 11.4k would imply.

[pjc50]

It's called the JD Power survey: https://driving.ca/auto-news/awards-surveys/vehicles-problem...

(an owner survey; rating the brand of a car you don't own is so subjective as to be of very limited use except to car marketers)

[rsynnott]

My immediate response was “they still make those?!”, but they actually still seem to be on sale here! Not sure I’ve seen one in the last decade or so; make of that what you will.

[graemep]

No, but the parent company is huge and makes some of the most popular brands - Citroen, Peugeot, Fiat, Open, Vauxhall.