[bayindirh]

No it doesn't. Service intervals are dependent on mileage. You should be detecting the problems and fixing them at regular servicing.

Ignoring brake checks is endangering life. Even though you have regenerative braking, brakes are used way more often in automatic and gearbox-free cars due to driving dynamics.

Just because there's no so-called stealership, ignoring brakes is not justifiable. So, I can mark Tesla as an irresponsible car company, with a bright and bold marker.

Thanks for narrowing my future car choices and pushing Tesla more out of my mind.

[starbugs]

You can mark whatever you want with your bright and bold marker. It doesn't make your argument more sound.

If you are worried about the brakes, brake hard occasionally to avoid rust.

Alternatively, you can charge the car up to near 100% if you go on a roadtrip. Regen will be limited initially so you will be able to use your brakes without braking hard.

If you are still worried about the brakes, go to an independent car mechanic regularly and have them checked.

It's as easy as that.

Nobody is preventing you from doing service even though it's not deemed necessary by the vendor.

Your comment doesn't seem to be about the actual issue but about some form of generalized Tesla brand hatred.

[bayindirh]

I'm not a person who keeps grudges, or hates things in general. I just take note what companies do, and change my choices based on my observation. VAG also took a good hit after their dieselgate scandal, and not recovered much in my mind, for example. Stellantis is also not doing well, and I was considering a vehicle from them, so I'm not so sure anymore.

I don't live in a flat city, of course I'm worried and aware of my brakes all times, and know how to condition and refresh my brakes.

My problem is Tesla's service policies, like ignoring "recommended" checks on a car. Oh sorry, I can go to an independent mechanic to further spend my non-existing time, you're right.

What's more interesting is Tesla not having brake pad thickness warnings, which our old 1999 Fiat Tipo had.

Being apologetic about problems doesn't make your arguments any more sound, either.

[starbugs]

> I just take note what companies do

No. You are obviously not doing that. You take note of what the media emphasizes in an obvious press campaign that oversimplifies the actual information to a degree where it becomes borderline useless in order to reach political goals. This is not the same.

[bayindirh]

> You take note of what the media emphasizes in an obvious press campaign that oversimplifies the actual information to a degree where it becomes borderline useless in order to reach political goals.

No, I'm not doing that. To be frank, my exposure to cars, engines and related technology goes back 30+ years,. I'm not naive enough to read a single article and change my mind about Tesla, "because Elon bad, so Tesla bad".

I'm not someone who sees his car as a black box. I can diagnose, disassemble and service my car to a certain degree (and recently did that by logging weeks of data from ECU because my mechanic was not able to pinpoint the problem, and I diagnosed the problem myself). I'm also not afraid or refrain from getting my hands dirty.

If something, this article I have read is a literal drop in a bucket of things I have read only about Tesla. My information consumption about cars is increased again recently, because I'm planning to buy something new, but I'm already familiar what I might be getting under the bonnet with every choice I make.

So, you're projecting your assumptions onto me, and not only your assumptions are wrong, what you're doing is also wrong.

[starbugs]

If that's the case, then please cite reliable sources about the exact issues that occur and what Tesla did or did not do to mitigate them or let them slip.

If you'd have those, you could have posted them earlier here in the thread.

[bayindirh]

Oh, wow. Requiring proof now.

First, I don't keep bookmarks of everything I read, second I can't record conversations I've had with people owning cars I'm interested in and store them in publicly accessible places.

I understand that we will not be able to meet somewhere in the middle. Also, I'm not someone who'd leave personal opinions and experiences to appease and please someone.

So, have a nice day. Hope your cars never break down and give you infinite joy.