[lou1306]

I beg you, please stop applying rule-of-law mindset against might-makes-right adversaries. It creates blind spots giving the illusion that the attack surface is way smaller than it actually is.

Muskolites are taking on the SSN system without any Congressional oversight as we speak. The President is attacking ius soli which is a Constitutional right. If they decide that sending their sleuths to Cambridge MA to physically destroy this data is in their best interest, they will do so and handle the courts later. Just stop pretending they will play by the book.

[squigz]

How do you recommend engaging with the situation then? Throw out the book too?

[tuukkah]

Take these new attack vectors into account in your threat analyses. In this specific case, perhaps start by shipping copies to non-US jurisdictions.

[matwood]

> Take these new attack vectors into account in your threat analyses.

Exactly. And while it might not be possible to protect against all the new vectors day one, no one should be surprised.

[greenie_beans]

read curtis yarvin, find the weaknesses in his arguments, and use those weaknesses against their ideology.

for start, he thinks FDR was a dictator but the only reason FDR had such power was because the support of labor and some parts of capital. he would know that if he was a historian instead of LARPing as one.

so organizing and supporting the labor movement would be a good place to start, since a organized labor could become a powerful poltical force. otherwise everybody is fragmented on both sides which further enables their ideology.

a recent blog of his gave me this idea: https://graymirror.substack.com/p/the-pleasure-of-error

he legit thinks trump is about to be FDR 2.0 but his mistake is ignorance about how the power worked during that time. you can even use his "differential" idea in that essay against him. the differential now is labor against wealth. always has been, especially when FDR wielded all the power yarvin thinks was a dictatorship since a lot of that power was given to him by the support of the massive labor movement at the time.

more practically, this blog has some good insight into the "what do i dooooo?????" question https://wagingnonviolence.org/2024/11/10-things-to-do-if-tru...

[lou1306]

On the technological side torrents, IPFS, and the like, urging international collaborators to make copies of everything public. On the political side mass protests, strikes, whistleblowing, general unrest that goes beyond mere social media activism.

[maaaaattttt]

Not OP but torrent would be my go to for a short term solution.

[anonzzzies]

Torrent would do it but 16TB is still not that cheap to just have running in your house nas (otherwise I would).

[bilekas]

Torrent would definitely be a great approach, 16TB is a commitment, but there's no problem with partial seeding also. I would choose selective chunks which consist of completed files.

[Fnoord]

European chiming in here. We need to backup, hash, and distribute this data. I bought four 12 TB HDDs (second hand enterprise) for about 360 EUR from USA (included tax & S&H). I could buy more, but I am feeling financially insecure now, and not buying anything from the USA anymore. I do have 3x 4 TB drives spare though. Might use these instead of going to some great parties.

[IsTom]

You can download and share only selected parts of a torrent. With enough people you're going to get full coverage anyway.

[nicce]

Assuming that people randomly select the portions.

[vincnetas]

how do you coordinate who downloads which part?

[IsTom]

Torrents track availability of pieces, you can seed ones with least availability if you want that.

[lou1306]

Of course this is more of a job for responsible universities/libraries/research centres around the world, rather than single individuals. I would be surprised if Harvard didn't already go through their contact list to ensure as many copies are being made as possible.

[globalnode]

Im predicting no more elections for you guys in 4 years. Something makes me think theres gonna be some "reason" to turn them off.

[lou1306]

I'm not one of the "guys" as I am from the EU. There is a narrow way through for the US, but treating the incumbent as Just Another Guy is not that.

[mongol]

I am sure there will be elections. Question is how fair they will be. Have a look at Russia's recent presidential election. Putin "winning" it was a given from the start. US voters need to be mindful of all the ways an election can be rigged.

[FredFS456]

IMO US elections have already been less-than-fully-democratic for a while, what with the voting registration and ID nonsense, as well as obvious gerrymandering and voter intimidation. At the very least, significantly less democratic than a number of other western countries.

[scarface_74]

Let’s stop applying copium to recent events and making excuses. The American people knew exactly what they were getting and voted for him anyway. He won a majority of the popular vote.

The Senate is 2 Senators per state regardless of the population and isn’t as susceptible to gerrymandering.

That being said, I don’t feel bad for anyone who voted for Trump and is having buyers remorse.

We are already seeing it with Arabs in Minnesota who thought Trump would be better for Arabs in Gaza and are now having regrets seeing how Trump wants to use US troops to “clear out Gaza” and Latin Americans who are appalled that he tried to remove birthright citizenship.

Next up will be all of the “rural American” voters who are going to bare the brunt of inflationary tariffs.

[sundaeofshock]

He did not get a majority of the vote. He won with a plurality of 49.8%.

[scarface_74]

Does that somehow make you feel better about your fellow Americans? Yes I’m a born and bred US citizen.

The crap that Michelle Obama and the rest of the DNC spew about “going high when they go low” and “this is not who we are” is just that.

This has always been who we are.

[Applejinx]

Putin's meddling all over the place including here.

To the extent that he has a role in this (certainly has publically claimed to!), he will in no way seek to make America a powerful allied country to Russia. There's no reason to assume he intends Trump or even Musk to actually be powerful in their own right.

Especially Musk. Musk must be mad to put himself in the position he's in. The only reason Putin would allow Musk to do what he's doing, is because it's patently obvious that Musk is undermining his own potential political base in every way, with every action. A widely hated man who's gone full Bond villain is no threat to Putin, politically. He's setting himself up to be demonized (Musk is) and doesn't even seem to register it.

[cowfriend]

also, many of musk's actions are illegal. Which means he is now owned by Trump. Play nice or go to jail. For a long time.

[RALaBarge]

Don't worry! There are a lot of fine patriots with firearms that keep them just in case of such a thing!

[andyjohnson0]

My current thinking for 2028/29:

- 20% likelihood of no election at all

- 70% "managed democracy" with outcome decided in advance

- 10% normal transfer of power if Trump or his successor loses

I think they're racing against the mid-terms next year. If they can lock it in by then then they're home free.

(disclosure: Brit not USian)

[matwood]

> I think they're racing against the mid-terms next year.

This is the race. Historically the party in power loses the mid-terms, and I think we're already seeing huge portions of the population having buyers remorse. But, Trumps team knows this. I was waiting for them to attack the FEC, and here we are.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/us/politics/federal-elect...