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by mastersummoner 504 days ago
I'm confused. Are you saying specifically that you think the experiences described in this article are for the good of the country? Or do you think they're an exaggeration/lie.
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I don’t think that’s what the comment said at all. You’re extrapolating too much.

Explaining the pendulum swinging violently because folks didn’t feel heard is not the same thing as saying that it’s a good thing that the pendulum has swung so violently.

I'm a Trump voter (2016, 2020, and 2024) so I obviously find all this a good thing, just for transparency.

That said, that is tangential and irrelevant to explaining how and why the pendulum swung back as hard as it did.

Trump won his first term in 2016 because Americans were fed up with the Bush+Obama status quo of endless wars and waste. Drain the swamp, fuck the establishment! As the sentiment of the day went; remember Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party? Biden winning 2020 was a sharp rebuke by the powers that be; how dare the people demand change and elect an outsider, how dare the people demand peace and effective government. Biden and Harris's 2024 campaigns likewise were based strictly and ultimately on continuing the status quo; Harris "had no policy" in large part because the "policy" was the status quo.

Trump winning again in 2024 with a historic campaign is a sharp rebuke to that, he is the people's retribution for being denied and refused for so long time and time again. For voters like me and us, NASA and the like having their funding slashed and denied is merely collateral damage for a greater and long-awaited cause.

Trump won his first term in 2016 because Americans were fed up with the Bush+Obama status quo of endless wars and wast

Does this include threatening Greenland with military action or does it not count as war if there is little resistance to be expected?

Or now Gaza. I guess they don’t count trade wars. Dalewyn could have his family deported and still think Trump is doing the right thing. I gave up responding.
As Trump said when an interviewer asked him about Ukraine: "I want people to stop dying." I think most Americans share that sentiment with regards to war, so no, trade wars don't count.

It's objective fact that Trump did not start a single war during his first term (he only inherited wars from his predecessors), his successor Biden immediately went back to starting wars. Americans will not tolerate declarations of war or otherwise military actions on Denmark/Greenland or Panama, we voted for him in large part because he is the first President in a long time who hates wars.

No. More. Wars. This is non-negotiable. Every single warmonger and the military industrial complex can go fuck themselves.

However, if we can get Greenland and the Panama Canal amicably through business/diplomacy then, as an American, why not?

>Dalewyn could have his family deported

If we're here illegally then fuck yeah Trump is doing the right thing; he's just enforcing the law as written. I thought we were all about rule of law?

> However, if we can get Greenland and the Panama Canal amicably through business/diplomacy then, as an American, why not?

was there anything amicable about his recent claims about greenland ?

How do you reconcile having a leader suggesting curing covid with bleach to know how to make government efficients ? Musk couldn't turn twitter back as far as we know either..

You seem to be very confused, among other things, about who started the Ukraine war and why. Gonna guess you probably think Obama started the Iraq war and probably the Civil War and WWII as well.
> It's objective fact that Trump did not start a single war during his first term (he only inherited wars from his predecessors), his successor Biden immediately went back to starting wars.

What war?

Seriously, what war?

I've tried searching for what wars, and found that the only ones started by the US this century were by Bush Jr.; neither Obama nor Biden went to war.

Do you mean the war Russia started by invading Ukraine? The ongoing conflict between Israel and various but changing subsets of their neighbours? Because these were not started by the US, they are outside the control of the US.

> No. More. Wars. This is non-negotiable. Every single warmonger and the military industrial complex can go fuck themselves.

> However, if we can get Greenland and the Panama Canal amicably through business/diplomacy then, as an American, why not?

He refused, when asked, to rule out using military force.

> if we can get Greenland and the Panama Canal amicably through business/diplomacy then

This is a joke right? I'm not sure 'amicably' means holding a gun to someone's head to get them to do what you want them to do. Trump stated he would use force if necessary.

> No. More. Wars.

Biden also didn't start any wars. Trump is talking about annexing Gaza, and he continues to talk about war with Iran. Trumps aggression is how wars start because it puts everyone on edge.

When Trump starts a war, which seems inevitable unless his advisors get some control, will you then admit it was dumb to vote for Trump? I'm sure you'll explain it away somehow as #winning.

> I thought we were all about rule of law?

I just assume you're trolling at this point. Trump just pardoned people who beat up law enforcement. He also talks about deporting people he simply doesn't like. He's farther from the rule of law than any POTUS in history.

> his successor Biden immediately went back to starting wars

Congratulations, seems like you have fully bought into MAGA propaganda.

> It's objective fact that Trump did not start a single war during his first term

No, its not. He certainly engaged in an armed conflict with Iran which was not an active conflict before his term.

> his successor Biden immediately went back to starting wars.

No, he didn't.

> No. More. Wars.

Since election, Trump has threatened war in or with Mexico, Denmark, and Panama, as well as the US actively completing the genocide Israel has started in Gaza. “No. More. Wars." Is very clearly not his priority.

NASA is ripe for some cuts. The Senate Launch System is a waste; both Space-X and Blue Origin have cheaper big boosters. There are too many NASA centers. The Space Force can take over Canaveral. The moon base should be all robots.
It sucks that the guy currently in charge of cost cutting has a blatant conflict of interest in getting rid of the SLS. It really does need to go, but he's not the one to do it.
> I'm a Trump voter (2016, 2020, and 2024) so I obviously find all this a good thing, just for transparency.

Burning the system down because of hurt pride doesn't sound like a good thing to me.

Your agent of retribution is now threatening my country.

It's because of people like you that I now have to start thinking of what I have to do if they start massing troops in Buffalo. No wars indeed...

And just so you know, invading us will never work. You are right to not want the US to enter a war. Because it has lost every war it has ever started.

Oh no the consequences of your incredibly stupid decisions!
And no Trump supporter can actually spell out clearly what that cause is besides "own the outgroup" and a religious faith in everything getting better for the cult member despite every single piece of evidence pointing to the contrary (unless you already happen to be a billionaire, of course). And I mean religious in the literal sense: a belief that some ill-defined paradise awaits the true believers and it will be worth it in the end even though it kind of hurts that their faces are being gnawed by the leopards (but at least the outgroup’s faces are being eaten too so it’s all right).