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by portaouflop 496 days ago
“The west” is synonymous with white people, especially in this context
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It’s not. The West = Europe, US and their the allies.

Japan is in the West and last time I checked they were still Asians.

It depends on the context. A military analyst's west includes Japan probably. A white nationalist's west does not probably.
> A military analyst's west includes Japan probably. A white nationalist's west does not probably.

I mean, no shit, the racist's definition of almost anything sociological is going to be racist.

michpoch stated a universal definition of the west. I stated it depends on context. You agree it depends on context evidently.

Racism is not the sole exception. Most Japanese people do not consider themselves western in most contexts. Including xenophiles.

> Japan is in the West and last time I checked they were still Asians.

Japan is not in the west. Japan is not a western country. They are not a western peoples. They don't speak a western language. They don't have western culture. They don't even use western script.

In what world is Japan "in the West"? Ask a japanese person whether they are in the west or are westerners. They'd laugh in your face.

The west is narrowly western european or western european descended majority nations. Broadly it's european majority nations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world

Japan is one of the most racist countries on the planet and was historically an ally of Nazi Germany
And the US crushed them, pretty hard. It was mostly white people who defeated that evil nation. Just like it was mostly white people that defeated Nazi Germany. Maybe people back then should have been more into the current "whites are all the same" level of thinking to prevent all those pointless wars.
You are hallucinating arguments that I never made. I said “the west” in the context of what Palantirs CEO was talking about refers to countries that are mainly seen as populated by white people.

I never said “white people bad” but that is what you seem to understand, I wonder where it came from?

I was replying to your comment saying "Japan racist and nazi ally" existing in this specific context that is filled with the crystal clear logic: "the west" equals "white people" equals "bad" which means "Karp literally racist and nazi too".

Your comment doesn't even make much sense in the vacuum except maybe as a quick fact check, but then you can consider my reply as just an extension of your comment. There is always someone who doesn't know that the WWII was not really about white people vs. non-white people type of thing.

See that’s when you hallucinated white people equals bad.

WW2 was started by white supremacist ideology - the Japanese just conveniently fit into that, even being called honorary Aryans at times.

So yea WW2 was white supremacists vs everyone else

So one racist country wins against another. Not sure what the point is.
Maybe those racists should have gotten together, forget their minor differences, and commit even more atrocious acts since folks these days think they were all baddies (and white, the worst thing of them all!) anyway. The wars they fought were completely pointless.

If only there was someone to tell them that all whites are really the same, so they would have understood. Well, Hitler had some ideas of unity close to that (with idiotic things like excluding "those stupid eastern slavs"). Modern racists see nothing but the skin colour, they don't even bother measuring your skull. That's how bad things have gotten.

They tried to do that, look up Nazism in the Americas - fortunately the white supremacists were very much in the minority in the US.

Modern racists operate pretty much the same way as 100+ years ago

Well, until quite recently in the US polite society, the Irish were not considered white... So entering into any kind of debate with such ill defined terminology as "the West" or "White" seems extremely pointless to me. Only snake-oil salesmen would use such terms in earnest.
And there is a great diversity of white people in Europe with competing interests. It’s not so simple.
Sure but I don’t think Karp was talking about the finer details between European cultures when he said “West obvious innate superiority”
Karp is mixed race.
You can be mixed and a white supremacist