[hyperold]

And the US crushed them, pretty hard. It was mostly white people who defeated that evil nation. Just like it was mostly white people that defeated Nazi Germany. Maybe people back then should have been more into the current "whites are all the same" level of thinking to prevent all those pointless wars.

[portaouflop]

You are hallucinating arguments that I never made. I said “the west” in the context of what Palantirs CEO was talking about refers to countries that are mainly seen as populated by white people.

I never said “white people bad” but that is what you seem to understand, I wonder where it came from?

[hyperold]

I was replying to your comment saying "Japan racist and nazi ally" existing in this specific context that is filled with the crystal clear logic: "the west" equals "white people" equals "bad" which means "Karp literally racist and nazi too".

Your comment doesn't even make much sense in the vacuum except maybe as a quick fact check, but then you can consider my reply as just an extension of your comment. There is always someone who doesn't know that the WWII was not really about white people vs. non-white people type of thing.

[portaouflop]

See that’s when you hallucinated white people equals bad.

WW2 was started by white supremacist ideology - the Japanese just conveniently fit into that, even being called honorary Aryans at times.

So yea WW2 was white supremacists vs everyone else

[computerthings]

No, that was propaganda the Germans were fed, though even then it was never about "Whites" (just consider the disdain for the British and Americans), but "Germans". But that wasn't in earnest, ever.

Though you can say it was about racial superiority, it was of a "race" that didn't exist yet. From https://archive.org/details/TheOriginsOfTotalitarianism/ page 412:

> The famous "Right is what is good for the German people" was meant only for mass propaganda; Nazis were told that "Right is what is good for the movement," and these two interests did by no means always coincide. The Nazis did not think that the Germans were a master race, to whom the world belonged, but that they should be led by a master race, as should all other nations, and that this race was only on the point of being born. Not the Germans were the dawn of the master race, but the SS. The "Germanic world empire," as Himmler said, or the "Aryan" world empire, as Hitler would have put it, was in any event still centuries off.

And don't forget: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero_Decree

> Moreover, according to some around him, Hitler came to view the German people as having failed him, unworthy of their great mission in history and thus deserving to die alongside his regime.

I think you could say for Hitler, it was only about Hitler. For his inner circle, it was about Hitler and them, and so on. Each layer used and deceived the outer layers.

[Hikikomori]

So one racist country wins against another. Not sure what the point is.

[hyperold]

Maybe those racists should have gotten together, forget their minor differences, and commit even more atrocious acts since folks these days think they were all baddies (and white, the worst thing of them all!) anyway. The wars they fought were completely pointless.

If only there was someone to tell them that all whites are really the same, so they would have understood. Well, Hitler had some ideas of unity close to that (with idiotic things like excluding "those stupid eastern slavs"). Modern racists see nothing but the skin colour, they don't even bother measuring your skull. That's how bad things have gotten.

[portaouflop]

They tried to do that, look up Nazism in the Americas - fortunately the white supremacists were very much in the minority in the US.

Modern racists operate pretty much the same way as 100+ years ago

[Hikikomori]

Wouldn't say that racists were in the minority. Hitler starting several wars turned them off from fascism, in Britain as well, but regular old racism and white supremacy was strong.