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by penjelly 498 days ago
Hi, I couldn't glean from the articles. But it sounds like you have breathing issues from long covid? it may sound ridiculous, but I developed gluten/lactose sensitivity during covid times. If I avoid gluten, lactose, canola oil I get far fewer symptoms. I know this likely isn't your issue but I do experience positive airway pressure, coughing, burping, chronic fatigue, exessive yawning. If that sounds like you maybe a dietary intolerance could be worth checking. For what it's worth, no doctors could diagnose me, they thought I had heartburn or "its in your head". It wasn't, cutting those things out did actually help enormously.
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My wife and I got Covid during the first major wave (March/April 2020). I had no symptoms at all, but my wife ended up getting long Covid. GI issues, extreme tiredness, shortness of breath, brain fog, sleep disruption, etc etc. She lost maybe 10-12% of her body weight.

After maybe 8 months of this we somehow decided to do a low-Fodmap diet (I participated for support). That included cutting out gluten and dairy (except butter). She healed right up. When we were re-introducing foods, for whatever reason, mushrooms and garlic both had negative effects, and we ended up keeping both out of our diets for a couple years.

Anyway, that's all to say I'd recommend people seriously look at their diet and try to spend a month or two doing low-fodmap if they're chronically suffering from long Covid. Worst case it doesn't help.

So, I'm not doctor, but I know that a lot of autoimmune diseases (I have a couple) can appear after a bad infection that your body fights off. So getting checked for the common AI diseases (Hashimoto's/Grave's, T1D, Lupus (It's never lupus), Crohn's, etc.).

Anti-inflammatory diets seem to help a lot of people with autoimmune disorders, because a flareup typically stems from stress or inflammation. Removing dairy and wheat didn't do anything for me, though.

I never got COVID, but I had a bad flu when I was a teen in the early 00s, and "new" research suggests that is when my body flipped a switch and now I develop a bunch of antibodies that attack a few systems, but good news is I'm basically NEVER sick anymore (might just be a coincidence, though).

Another anecdote: I experienced tiredness and persistent coughing after covid. I tried a gluten-free diet and .. saw absolutely no difference at all.
My fiance developed an intolerance to alliums (onion, garlic) and mushrooms around the start of COVID, though he had never tested positive for the virus. Low-Fodmap diet helped us to find the culprit as well.

I’m intrigued: Is your wife able to eat onions?

Yet another anecdote, but my wife and I both got COVID. I was quite a bit sicker than she was.

I later found out that I'm a type II diabetic, and almost certainly was at the time I had COVID given the timing. I had fairly severe fatigue symptoms preceding that diagnosis, and the diet/exercise changes I made to bring that under control look a lot like what your wife did, and also seem to have alleviated the fatigue.

There was about a 12 month separation between recovering from COVID and my own fatigue symptoms. Had the timing been a bit different I likely would have assumed I was suffering from long COVID, and would probably have been less inclined to see a doctor as a result.

None of this is to suggest that any given person is suffering from diabetes, that long COVID should be treated the same way, or that any given person with long COVID is self diagnosing. For anyone that is though, definitely consider talking to a doctor. Coincidences happen and you could have something that is both unrelated and treatable going on.

Anecdotally I went through a severe bout of IBS-C in my early 20s and the "cure" was to cut out wheat and dairy for an extended period of time (about a year and a half), at which point I was able to reintroduce them into my diet and I've been ~fine for about 20 years now. I've hypothesized that the lining of my intestine(s) had been damaged by the proteins and/or starches/sugars in those foods and needed a break and time to heal. I'm not a medical professional and my hypothesis has never been confirmed by one.
I had a similar experience with dairy. (Wheat is still out.) It used to give me severe digestive symptoms and inflammation, but after cutting it out for a year or so, I've been able to reintroduce it without any noticeable symptoms. No GI I've seen has really had answers for me, and I'm not really interested in seeing an "alternative medicine" doctor, although I'm sure they would claim to know what's going on. But I'd recommend trying an elimination diet to anyone who has unexplainable symptoms in that vein. The limitations are annoying at first, but you get used to it.
It's pathogenic yeasts that really drive the whole thing, and milk inflames the immune response. The trick with COVID is to take melatonin during and after it. Gut health is a longer journey as leaky gut takes awhile to heal.
> "its in your head"

insane that it's still so common...

"it's in your head" diagnosis is when the medical establishment gives up and outsources the treatment to the patients themselves and that quite often does not end up well for the patient regardless of the true cause of the illness.
I really get the sentiment that if you look at people who are told "it's all in your head" and then they find some obscure condition that is treatable, it might be considered borderline malpractice for the physician to have told them that... but does the frequency with which patients are told that maybe give some insight into how many psychosomatic patients there really are out there?
I don't think so. I have literal objective tested allergies and people ask me if I think the symptoms (allergic rhinitis) are psychosomatic all the time. So many people I talk to have real symptoms and down play them as probably having some mental component.
I mean, we had actual doctors doing the "In your head" song and dance before my wife was diagnosed with RA for a good 3-4 months. There was visible swelling/blistering and she couldn't walk unassisted. This is an anecdote of course, but, this was a very obvious condition, and we got "in your head"ed.
I was told I was “imagining” things, probably as a result of stress from overworking. And told if I relaxed, I’d find out I in fact had no problems.

lol, I had a spinal cord injury.

I laugh when I think about it, but there has been a lot of anger to get here.

Seems to me like that would be the number one offered advice when you get less than five minutes of time with a doctor under typical US doctor visits. Seems like a very convenient way to cycle patients through faster. The only downside is there's not really any scripts you can write which lowers your quota for which ever bigPharma the doctor has sold their soul
In my mind, that doesn't make the symptoms any less real to the person suffering from them and does absolutely nothing to remedy the situation. Even if it is in the person's head, any doctor offering that advice should be facing consequences for not offering a legitimate path for treatment.
They do - we call them therapists and they are on the hook. Medical doctors deal with BODY related issues.
I'm not a medical professional, but as a firmware engineer I do bristle a bit at the suggestion that "hardware" and "software" problems can be so cleanly separated.
Many conditions aren't well understood and simply don't have effective treatments.
My apologies if my comment sounded insensitive towards people who have real physical ailments, but there are cases where psychology may play a role and I firmly believe the medical system should take responsibility for those cases rather than shrugging them off and leaving the patient to figure it out on their own. First and foremost, they are leaving the patient suffering. Then there are other factors to consider, ranging from patients seeking out ineffective and unproven treatments for something that may not have a physiological basis to something having a physiological basis not being diagnosed because it was dismissed as having a psychological basis.
it's in my head but guess what? that's where I live! I didn't think my way into this particular problem and I can't think my way out this particular problem and I need external help to get back to normal.
I had the same reaction. And it's so disappointing.
> I developed gluten/lactose sensitivity during covid times

Same here, at least in regard to gluten. I was in my mid-forties, and I started experiencing painful bloating that often led to difficulty breathing, and after an hour or so of pain, vomiting. The involuntary 'protein spill' alleviated the pain of bloating, but I was left exhausted for the remainder of the day.

At first, these episodes occurred about once every 2 weeks, but they grew more and more common over a few months, until it was a nearly daily occurrence. I had become overweight (I'm still working on that), so my doctor concluded that I just needed to lose some body fat. It felt like there was something more serious more going on, but US health care.

Weeks later, I stumbled upon a science article describing how millions of people develop gluten sensitivity later in life. It described familiar symptoms and progression. As an experiment, I tried eliminating gluten from my diet (which is tricky, that stuff sneaks into surprising places), and I felt much better within a few days.

In the ~2 years since, I've had a few episodes, but I can almost always find a place where gluten snuck into my food (e.g., a taco place that added flour to its corn tortillas). On one occasion, I deliberately ate a bit of bread, and sure enough, 30 minutes later I was begging the porcelain gods for forgiveness.

I miss real bread, but for me, the blowback isn't worth it.

100%. it took me years to consider gluten/lactose as the root cause, because I'd been eating them for years and definitely never almost suffocated like the symptoms it causes now for me now.
It’s frustrating how often things get dismissed as "in your head" when the right tweak can make a huge difference.