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by notfish 516 days ago
In what languages is n % 2 -1 for negative odd numbers?

Edit: apparently JS, java, and C all do this. That’s horrifying

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Horrifying? It’s mathematically correct.
it's a semantics problem, not a maths problem - modulus and remainder are not the same operation. This easily trips up people since `%` is often called "modulo", yet is implemented as remainder operation in many languages

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13683563/whats-the-diffe...

It's actually really awkward. Math usually considers (-7 mod 5) === (2 mod 5). But in C, (-7 % 5 != 2 % 5).
No. Math considers -7 = 3 modulo 5. it's a ring that repeats every 5 units. -7 + 5 + 5 = 3.

Think of a clock which is a ring of size 12. In a clock, going backwards 15 hours (-15) is the same as going backwards 3 hours (-3) which is the same as going forwards 9 hours.

-15 = -3 = 9 modulo 12

You are correct. I thinko'd and missed the edit window. I meant to say:

Math usually considers (-7 mod 5) === (3 mod 5). But in C, (-7 % 5 != 3 % 5).

The issue is that -7 and 3 are congruent, but the % operator keeps the sign. So -7 % 5 yields -2, not +3. Those are congruent, but not equal. I've never had a use for this behaviour, but I've definitely had to work around it. The lazy way is ((x % n) + n) % n which is safe (assuming n > 0).

+1. I wholeheartedly agree. That "lazy way" looks all too familiar haha.
wrong. it's not any more correct than 1. that's the key part of an "equivalence" class is that the elements are "equivalent"