[pton_xd]

After owning a Model Y for a year I have to say -- it's the best car I've ever had. Comfortable ride, the visibility with the cameras is great, amazing all-weather traction. It's freakin' fast. The voice-to-navigate works nearly 99% of the time which, given my experiences with Alexa and Siri, is quite impressive.

All the usual EV caveats apply though. Being able to charge at home is a must. Living in a cold weather state is probably not advised. Multi-state road trips are doable but not recommended; it's just too much of a hassle. Keep a gas car for that. And I still don't trust any driving assist more advanced than enhanced cruise control.

I have no emotional response to Musk so that doesn't color my opinion of the car.

[ahahahahah]

> it's the best car I've ever had

That's going to be true for many car sales. People don't usually downgrade on cars, and there is real progress on car features over a typical period between buying cars. It'll be especially true if a brand like Tesla where most if their sales are coming from people who previously owned significantly cheaper cars.

[mrguyorama]

It's also just standard human psychology after you've spent $40k, advertisers have relied on this for decades.

[kanbara]

norway was almost full EV purchases last year. cold weather issues are totally exacerbated.

also, i drove in a tesla, and the number of cameras doing weird and confusing things with bad perspectives weirded me out. i don't know why, but it just felt wrong, and too much information on the screen too. like they tried to do every technical thing just because.

and if you don't think musk is a danger, idk what to tell you. either you support him or you just don't care about human life.

[3vidence]

Norway is also less than half the size of Texas with even that population heavily concentrated in the south near the ports.

North America is .... Big. Like really big. So discussions around vehicle range might be dramatically differently depending on location.

Not saying you are wrong though just something to consider

[tzs]

The parts of Norway where most of the populations lives have warmer winters than most of the northern US states except the ones near the Pacific ocean.

[technion]

The "being able to charge at home" is why I recently purchased an petrol powered Subaru.

But every online comment and guide telling people to simply install a charger in their driveway assumes a certain amount of privilege, and I feel a lot of this discussion just assumes everyone has that privilege. I'm currently living in an apartment, my underground car park has no power runs anywhere near my car. Before that I lived in a rented house, and getting permission to install anything that required drilling a single hole would have been a non starter.

[kanbara]

this is more of a problem with the power of landlords and bad regulations for the average person. in europe in a lot of countries renters have the right to make changes and in some even the right to have EV chargers installed

[buffington]

On impulse a few years ago I decided to drive our Model 3 on a multi-state road trip that'd take us through Colorado, Utah, Nevada, California, up through Oregon, then back to Colorado instead of our perfectly fine ICE car. I use the car mostly for local, sub-50 mile drives, which it excels at, and never considered it as a road trippable car (less because of the powertrain and more because of lack of road trips in general).

I have zero regrets about picking the EV at the last minute, and would 100% make this choice again. I assumed, like I imagine most people do, that having to wait while charging would be a deal breaker. I quickly learned to love the wait though. It makes long road trips so much more comfortable when you take a break every 6 hours that's long enough to go for a walk or take a nap.

I could employ that strategy with an ICE car, sure, but if I compare my ICE to my EV, the differences between the two in terms of comfort, functionality, and cost of operating put the EV way out ahead of the ICE.

[lossolo]

> it's the best car I've ever had

What other cars you had before?

[LightBug1]

None of your positives resonate.

I'll never buy a Tesla. A decade ago I was a huge fan.

Most likely option at the moment is the Hyundai ioniq 5 N ... not only a better drivers car than anything Tesla have ever put out, but I don't have to swallow the Musk emotional tax or have his smell lingering over the purchase ...

I'll ... never ... buy ... a ... Tesla.

The brand is over.