[ChiMan]

Best drug suite for productivity: Copious running and moderate weights and calisthenics; moderate coffee, including occasional midday coffee with L-theanine; a protein-rich diet with minimal sugar and carbs generally; in bed by 9:30. If your job doesn’t allow enough time for these minimal investments in your productivity, then get a different job. Don’t waste your life working for fools, or competing with them.

[BobbyJo]

Have you tried the others? I don't mean to be facetious, and I think you're correct in terms of long term sustainability and health, but, unless you've tried the drugs or are citing a paper, there isn't much substance yo your assertion.

You're also overlooking the affect of stacking drugs on top of all the other things you list.

[sabbaticaldev]

same thing can be said about the opposite. People addicted to drugs to be productive, have they tried GP strategy?

> you're also overlooking the affect of stacking drugs on top of all the other things you list.

that’s an exception, people looking for shortcuts won’t take the long route

[renewiltord]

Yes. I have done all that. Coffee, coffee plus l theanine, plus Mg supplement, plus vit supplements, lifting (at 155 lbs, I had dl 375, squat 265, front squat 225, bench 185, ohp 135, clean and jerk 135, snatch 115), 23 min 5k (untrained, I got my running from daily Barry’s class), rhr 39 bpm, HIIT every morning, sleep 10 pm to 6 pm. Many variants. All these are outclassed by even modafinil. And that is a candle to the sun that is amphetamine.

Only reason I don’t use the drugs is I want to avoid habit formation. Afterburners on, man. You don’t know the fire till you’ve seen it.

Now I am like a family man, but you can pour gasoline on youthful bonfire. Probabilistic failure possible but if you’re lucky, emerge unscathed.

[mancerayder]

I'd rather be unproductive than live that intensely, drugs or early bed time and intense exercise nonstop.

I do exercise because it's fun, rather than to work more.

[BobbyJo]

> same thing can be said about the opposite. People addicted to drugs to be productive, have they tried GP strategy?

Well yes, but I'm not making any assertions there.

[potatoicecoffee]

productivity isn't worth forcing yourself to have a toddlers bedtime

[mikemcquaid]

Living longer, being stronger and being happier all make it worth it, though.

[Havoc]

> in bed by 9:30

That may be a touch optimistic for the crowd in question.

[sabbaticaldev]

People change (as we get older?)

[mancerayder]

I agree that exercise is a great psychological benefit.

But at a certain age you're exhausted more easily and recover less well. I say this as very active middle-aged weightlifter (who gets more joint pain from running but that's besides the point).

But maybe since this article talks about people in their 20s mostly, including I think 30s, your advice us definitely worth following.

But if you need something to work 20 hr days on deals, I dunno, maybe don't do that.

Or maybe do it with a fixed goal - save $x. I think a lot of the people in the articles are addicted to work, though! I'm lucky in that I never had that issue.