[BobbyJo]

Have you tried the others? I don't mean to be facetious, and I think you're correct in terms of long term sustainability and health, but, unless you've tried the drugs or are citing a paper, there isn't much substance yo your assertion.

You're also overlooking the affect of stacking drugs on top of all the other things you list.

[sabbaticaldev]

same thing can be said about the opposite. People addicted to drugs to be productive, have they tried GP strategy?

> you're also overlooking the affect of stacking drugs on top of all the other things you list.

that’s an exception, people looking for shortcuts won’t take the long route

[renewiltord]

Yes. I have done all that. Coffee, coffee plus l theanine, plus Mg supplement, plus vit supplements, lifting (at 155 lbs, I had dl 375, squat 265, front squat 225, bench 185, ohp 135, clean and jerk 135, snatch 115), 23 min 5k (untrained, I got my running from daily Barry’s class), rhr 39 bpm, HIIT every morning, sleep 10 pm to 6 pm. Many variants. All these are outclassed by even modafinil. And that is a candle to the sun that is amphetamine.

Only reason I don’t use the drugs is I want to avoid habit formation. Afterburners on, man. You don’t know the fire till you’ve seen it.

Now I am like a family man, but you can pour gasoline on youthful bonfire. Probabilistic failure possible but if you’re lucky, emerge unscathed.

[mancerayder]

I'd rather be unproductive than live that intensely, drugs or early bed time and intense exercise nonstop.

I do exercise because it's fun, rather than to work more.

[BobbyJo]

> same thing can be said about the opposite. People addicted to drugs to be productive, have they tried GP strategy?

Well yes, but I'm not making any assertions there.