[iam-role-admin]

I absolutely hate making this comment but I’m obliged to because I feel some you all are pointing at irrelevant factors, because you don’t know any better. Look at the birth rate for a better signal and the decline of single income families. Lastly, straight men, I’ll give you a secret women choose to go to school because we are taught at a young age that if getting an education is the #1 way to not be dependent on anyone. A man can easily walk out on you so it’s a poor decision to not get or finish an education. Look at when the data starts going up- that’s the generation that saw the last wave of traditional stay at home house wives and single income families. Unless you absolutely are called to be a house wife/trad wife at 18 with your high school sweetheart… you go to school. It’s pretty obvious.

[johnnyanmac]

>Look at the birth rate for a better signal and the decline of single income families.

Those affect both genders, yes.

>Lastly, straight men, I’ll give you a secret women choose to go to school because we are taught at a young age that if getting an education is the #1 way to not be dependent on anyone.

Well I can give you a secret back: for better or worse, men know we have more options without a degree. Both my uncles weren't college material so my grad dad put them both in the army. another uncle went straight to trades. My cousin went to the peace corp and another cousin did go to school but on a sports scholarship.

These aren't male exclusive but very male skewed. It could be a chicken and egg but for a lot of "us" there is nowhere near as much pressure to go to college in order to get a job. So the stats aren't surprising.

[incomingpain]

>astly, straight men, I’ll give you a secret women choose to go to school because we are taught at a young age that if getting an education is the #1 way to not be dependent on anyone. A man can easily walk out on you so it’s a poor decision to not get or finish an education.

Nobody says you must be a tradwife. You should seek your dreams in life. If that means you want a degree and career, definitely go for it. That's your choice to make. If you give this choice to anyone else, you will be screwed.

Generic stereotypes of men shouldnt be a major factor in making decisions in your life. This is a you decision.

But there's consequences here that you dont seem to acknowledge and you're going to struggle greatly in the dating scene.

It's still shocking to me that women saw men working very hard jobs, coming home absolutely destroyed and worn out and women wanted this? lol?

[zifpanachr23]

Honestly, I think the bit about not depending on somebody is something that would help if we drilled it in to young boys as well.

Totally agree about how women should go to school of course. I'm not sure there was anybody in this chat or the article really questioning that, but you made a good case for it anyway.

[valval]

There’s nothing wrong with single income families, as that has been the default setting for all of our history. I’m inclined to believe that is a solution for some problem that we don’t remember.

By the way, love how you addressed us as “straight men”, flushing down the toilet any interest we had in taking you seriously.

[johnnyanmac]

>There’s nothing wrong with single income families

Except the economies. When dual income becomes more common, housing starts to charge under that assumption.

Most people literally cannot afford to be single income. There are divorcees who stay together simply because either cannot afford to move out and go it alone for a while.

[zifpanachr23]

There's definitely nothing wrong with them. But we a matter of risk mitigation, it's obvious why people wish to put themselves in a situation where they don't wind up in the situation or being dependent on a single income (that is another person) when they have preplanned all that out already and chosen it

[Sammi]

No bank anywhere in the western world will lend you money for a house on a single income. Double income is the norm, so it's reflected in the price.

[fragmede]

In 2023, single women made up 17% of home buyers, and single men accounted for 9% of buyers.

https://www.rocketmoney.com/learn/homeownership/womens-housi...

[jacobjjacob]

This is 10000% false. Straight up misinformation.