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by miah_ 578 days ago
Whats hilarious is that Kibana started out as a Open Source.

Hard to trust anything released as OSS these days that hits this site run by a for profit company.. Its all destined to have a rug pull after some VC funding. Considering HyperDX is a for profit company, I'm sure we won't have to wait long!
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bboreham 578 days ago
Kibana is once again Open Source, as of 2 months ago. https://github.com/elastic/kibana/blob/main/LICENSE.txt
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mathfailure 578 days ago
What do we say in such cases? It was good while it lasted!

Once that happens - eventually some new kids would appear on the block.

Such is the life.

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hinkley 577 days ago
Seems particularly true for tools that have operational implications. It's very easy to justify why something should be for-pay when it's indispensible day in and day out.
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mikeshi42 578 days ago
Ahh yeah fwiw it wasn't _intended_ to be a dig at the open source status of Kibana - but rather we're open source and building on top of Clickhouse.

On the commercial OSS side of things - I suspect the trend there is more nuanced than all OSS companies being suspect to the same problem, but rather companies that generally solve a "behind the API" problem are more susceptible to problems of cloud vendors taking their code and competing with them commercially (ex. if you're a DB like Redis, Mongo, Elastic - or a CLI like Terraform). We're building an end-user experience (more like Gitlab) - where experience differentiation matters a lot more than simple infrastructure hosting, something AWS is not particularly well suited at competing on!

It's been 3 years of Gitlab post-IPO and they're still MIT, and that's the boat we're on as well :)

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ayewo 578 days ago
Congrats on the Show HN launch!

> It's been 3 years of Gitlab post-IPO and they're still MIT, and that's the boat we're on as well :)

I totally understand your optimism but keep in mind that GitLab was exploring a sale as at 4 months ago https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/google-backed-software...

If they get bought or have a change of management, they might revisit the MIT license.

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mdaniel 577 days ago
> they might revisit the MIT license.

IANAL, but AIUI they for sure can do that to the content of the "ee" directory, but all other contributions are just DCO, not CLA https://about.gitlab.com/community/contribute/dco-cla/#which...

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