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by bjoli 589 days ago
I think outcome is the measure we should look at. With regards to disease and longevity there is nothing saying about 50-65% of energy from carbs has to be bad. What matters is what kind of carbs. Bulgur. Quinoa. Whole Rye. Oats. Beans.

In fact, this kind of diet that is the basis of the modern dietary recommendations because we know it is associated with good outcomes.
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KempyKolibri 589 days ago
Based. I know you might just be taking the agnostic position for the sake of the conversation, but the evidence overwhelmingly suggests 6 servings of carbs would massively improve your ACM risk: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000291652...
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bjoli 589 days ago
Oh I know. The Mediterranean diet is universelly associated with good health outcomes. It doesn't seem to matter how many youtubers there are explaining mechanisms why carbs or vegetables are bad for you... It also happens to align with a diet that is much better for the planet than the SAD.

I started following a Mediterranean style diet for my own heath a long time ago, and when I realized the harm of animal agriculture I stopped eating animal products completely. I of course would have preferred to continue eating like before, but evidence told me otherwise.

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KempyKolibri 589 days ago
Hot damn, you’re totally on the money. Fair play to you. An island of sanity in a sea of “but we’ve eaten fatty meat for thousands of years.”
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bjoli 589 days ago
The worst part of eating almost exclusively plants is all the BS. At first they said I couldn't build muscle, so I started lifting weights. When I could deadlift 3x my weight and do 15 strict pull-ups my diet was not good enough for endurance. So I did a 3.40 marathon after 6 months of preparation. Then I swam 10k in just over 3h.

But every time I get a cold (with 3 kids in kindergarten and school, viruses are obligatory) it is seen as a weakness of my way of life. I even had a congenital condition blamed on my plant-based diet by more than one person, despite me doing a lot better than just about everyone else with that condition (which is probably just luck, my family have done well as well, while eating a standard diet).

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KempyKolibri 589 days ago
Haha. You may be built like Schwarzenegger, but you’ll always be a soyboy (</sarcasm>). I think people find veganism threatening so like to mock those that adhere to those principles instead of performing some soul searching.

> 3 kids in kindergarten and school

I see you have chosen the path of perpetual illness and insomnia.

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