[richardw]

I wonder if the flatness of the country plays a part? I live on a hill and am surrounded by hills. A 3km ride in any direction and back is hard work. Lots of e-bikes here, and lots of mountain biking. But when I suggested getting a bike to my SO for her to get to the closest bus stop faster, the hills were the reason why she’d rather walk.

[tfourb]

This is almost completely solved by e-bikes. You can convert practically any bike to an e-bike and while it does cost money, it is cheaper than the costs associated with driving a car or the bus by orders of magnitude over the life time of the bike.

Walking is fine as well, though. No real reason to play off walking and cycling against each other.

[richardw]

> Walking is fine as well, though. No real reason to play off walking and cycling against each other.

Reason 1: a 6 year old who would like more time with an overworked mother who can’t move from her job (yet) due to visa reasons.

[dncornholio]

E-bikes are at least 5 times more expensive. Not everyone can afford one.

[Filligree]

Far cheaper than cars though. But compared to walking, yeah.

[seanmcdirmid]

I rode a bike in Lausanne, which was a primarily 3D city. T was a bit of a struggle to get up the hill in the morning though, you could coast back down at night. Before that I lived in Seattle which wasn’t as extreme, but if you lived on say Queen Anne hill instead of Ballard, I could see where that wouldn’t work out. Maybe that’s why Minneapolis has better cycling infrastructure than Seattle.

[loa_in_]

The best part of biking uphill is that you can just walk alongside your bike if you want to take a break and you lose nothing

[Reason077]

e-bikes are getting pretty popular. Solves the hill problem.

[robertlagrant]

Yes, super-recent developments may obviate hills, but 40 years of city design have already happened. The Netherlands case was easy mode, and they leaned into it while extending their cities. That's not useful for almost any other country.

Also e-bikes are expensive and heavy, of course, so they're a good gentrification measure, if you're into that sort of thing, but they aren't for everyone.

[GateCrasher]

Alot cheaper and less heavy then a car.

[robertlagrant]

And cheaper and less heavy than a space shuttle. But neither will seem that relevant when it comes to parking and securing your electric bike when you live 5 floors up.

[Reason077]

Lack of parking can be a barrier to adoption with any type of bike. Nobody wants to lug any bike up stairs.

But it's a solvable problem. Newer apartment buildings in London must provide secure cycle parking for residents and visitors.

For older buildings that lack such provisions, London councils often provide secure (covered, lockable) on-street cycle storage facilities. 1 or 2 car parking spaces can be converted into parking for many bikes! [1]

[1] https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/cycling/cycle-parking

[WalterBright]

A local nurse told me they had a lot of victims of "Lime Disease" in the hospitals, i.e. people who rode those Lime bicycles without a helmet.