[seanmcdirmid]

I rode a bike in Lausanne, which was a primarily 3D city. T was a bit of a struggle to get up the hill in the morning though, you could coast back down at night. Before that I lived in Seattle which wasn’t as extreme, but if you lived on say Queen Anne hill instead of Ballard, I could see where that wouldn’t work out. Maybe that’s why Minneapolis has better cycling infrastructure than Seattle.

[loa_in_]

The best part of biking uphill is that you can just walk alongside your bike if you want to take a break and you lose nothing

[Reason077]

e-bikes are getting pretty popular. Solves the hill problem.

[robertlagrant]

Yes, super-recent developments may obviate hills, but 40 years of city design have already happened. The Netherlands case was easy mode, and they leaned into it while extending their cities. That's not useful for almost any other country.

Also e-bikes are expensive and heavy, of course, so they're a good gentrification measure, if you're into that sort of thing, but they aren't for everyone.

[GateCrasher]

Alot cheaper and less heavy then a car.

[robertlagrant]

And cheaper and less heavy than a space shuttle. But neither will seem that relevant when it comes to parking and securing your electric bike when you live 5 floors up.

[Reason077]

Lack of parking can be a barrier to adoption with any type of bike. Nobody wants to lug any bike up stairs.

But it's a solvable problem. Newer apartment buildings in London must provide secure cycle parking for residents and visitors.

For older buildings that lack such provisions, London councils often provide secure (covered, lockable) on-street cycle storage facilities. 1 or 2 car parking spaces can be converted into parking for many bikes! [1]

[1] https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/cycling/cycle-parking