[sn9]

Safe compared to meth maybe but not compared to caffeine.

Setting aside alcohol addiction, the costs of alcohol abuse to your health (e.g., brain damage, liver disease, etc.), and the risk of killing yourself by drinking too much in a sitting, there's also the way it drastically increases the risk of drunk driving and domestic violence.

I'm not saying we should ban it or anything, but we should not be underplaying the very real risks and costs associated with it.

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the counter argument I hear is that few extra years of life you get by being 100% sober are not worth it.

Think of alcohol as ancient painkiller/antidepressant that helped people to get through the challenges of their lifes and make it through the life without walking out of the window

[sn9]

People who have that much of an issue with sobriety have other demons they need to address in therapy.