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the counter argument I hear is that few extra years of life you get by being 100% sober are not worth it.

Think of alcohol as ancient painkiller/antidepressant that helped people to get through the challenges of their lifes and make it through the life without walking out of the window

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People who have that much of an issue with sobriety have other demons they need to address in therapy.