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by RandomThoughts3 665 days ago
> I find it deeply uncomfortable that the HN contingent is rushing to defend the French government on this matter.

I find it deeply uncomfortable that the HN contingent is rushing to defend Telegram like if it was an open attack of free speach and not justified by Telegram completes lack of cooperation in crime investigations.

>If Telegram really was not answering enforcement requests in a timely manner, then France should have moved against the company either through a direct ban on the app itself or other court action. Putting its CEO in prison sends a message.

Yes, it sends the message that executives are actually responsible for what their company does. That's a good message.

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Yes, it does send a message. But it should only have been done after rules have been set and are clear to everyone. Simply, proper law first established and in place and then due and proper process followed.

Acting opportunistically without warning and or out of vengefulness or malice brings Justice into ill-repute.

Like entrapment, this is action is about as low and debased as it gets.

The French Government could have banned Telegram across French territories, not only has it not done that but French leaders actually use the program. Such hypocrisy is mind-blowing.

Whatever happened to Liberté, égalité, fraternité?

> But it should only have been done after rules have been set and are clear to everyone.

Rules are and were always very clear. That's called the law. I don't understand why people here are acting like if there somehow was something surprising in Durov arrest.

> Like entrapment, this is action is about as low and debased as it gets.

There is no entrapment here. Entrapment is illegal in France. Durov was arrested as part of an investigation on Telegram practices. Law inforcement was not in anyway part of Telegarm not respecting the law.

> The French Government could have banned Telegram across French territories

The issue is not about Telegram as an application which is and remains perfectly legal. The issue is with Telegram as a company which is not helping in criminal investigations. Why should France ban a legal application?

It's simple really. If French Laws were clear Durov would NOT have gone to France. QED.
In this case, I believe he thought the law won't be enforced. His gamble didn't work out.

Putin visiting Mongolia when there is an ICC arrest warrant for him is the same type of gamble.