[gperkins978]

Has no one used the word enshittification yet? Google, Stack Overflow, Amazon, ..., it is like every useful website twenty years ago is now literally a steaming pile of excrement. I find myself using books again to look things up because it is often easier. I never thought Bing would be the best option, but now it often is, but not because it got better, but simply because everything ese got so much worse.

Stack Overflow is how I learned to do almost everything. Now I never use it anymore. Mostly because it has become useless. I love that it does not have video (I hate video), but the good answers are no longer there, but there is far more attitude. I never recall being insulted or degraded before, but that sure is common now. I increasingly think that real internet ID's are a wonderful idea, just so twerps can get beaten again, as is just.

Any anonymous tool will trend towards soft, whiny bitch in the absence of leadership or subtle forms of norm enforcement. Male spaces tend to be enjoyable because of swift, brutal norm enforcement. This is missing at Stack Overflow and pretty much everywhere online, so behavior converges towards 13-year-old teen cheerleader behavior. We need to make it more of a high school male locker room environment (silent unless you have something valuable to say, with consequences if you misbehave).

In summary, the judicious use of the appropriate level of violence is the solution to everything.

[Glawen]

The norm is enforced, it's just that it is not the needed norm.

I see it more as missing a sound authority stopping the fight of siblings.

I'm surprised noone is seeing an analogy at work. I switched teams recently, from an engineering team to a software engineering team, and it was obvious that they applied the SO attitude at work: bullying, berating questions, avoid facing the truth etc...