[hrkucuk]

It seems that there is a persistent desire to call the country whatever you are used to. As a Turkish, I would add the points: You can call it whatever you want. Turkey is the historical name of the region. I believe the bird's name was also adopted from the fact that the bird came to Western world through Turkiye. The bird comes to us from India, so we call it "Hindi" in Turkish. I hope India one day does not change its name to something else because they don't want to be associated with what other people call them. Oh wait, they call themselves as Bharat(a) actually. In Turkish, the word "spice" is called "Baharat". Go figure.

Another important point for people who want to dead name Turkiye is this: When South Sudan was separate from Sudan, they were called South Sudan. Nobody disputed their name. If Turkiye split in two one day, one might call itself "Eastern Turkiye". In that case I just hope nobody tells them, 'no I will call you "Eastern Turkey" because that's what the other country was called which you were part of before.' We are not called "Ottoman Kingdom 2.0" for some reason. Now we apparently chose ourselves a new name to be referred in foreign languages. They did not consult me, tbh. But it fits what we call it in our original language (we call it "Türkiye"), so I am actually happy about it. So if you show respect to that decision then you show that as it is. If you don't respect it then, well you don't, and that's that. No kebap for you (/s).

About Roblox: My nephew coming of age invited me to play computer games. He told me to install Roblox but I haven't even heard about it and it did not appeal to me. I told him to install Sven-Co-op, because Half-Life is awesome and Sven Co-Op gives you multiplayer feature for free. We played for a while but he was dead bored and he quit. I was genuinely hurt but did not show it. New generation likes other things I guess. Then we played Roblox and honestly it had worse graphics than Half-Life, which is 25 years old game. Somehow it was boring to me but enjoyable to my Gen Z nephew. Well I hope he won't get too hardly shaken by the news, anyhow, somehow I feel relieved about this ban. These days he talks about "making his own games". I want to wait until a bit before I tell him the bad news about making games, but in general I am happy about the direction he is thinking.

[JumpCrisscross]

> they call themselves as Bharat(a) actually

We call ourselves Indian and the country India in English. It would be a bit odd to hear someone refer Bharat in English.

[amiga386]

Please tell it to Modi, who proposed your country to be called Bharat in other languages.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/9/6/india-or-bharat-what...

What I think stayed his hand was Pakistani nationalists saying they would rename Pakistan to India, if India renamed itself to Bharat.

https://www.indy100.com/news/india-name-change-bharat-pakist...

[philsnow]

> These days he talks about "making his own games". I want to wait until a bit before I tell him the bad news about making games

Part of the appeal of Roblox, to my limited understanding, is the ability to create content ("games") for it. This is the platform's two-edged sword, though, since their content moderation seems either insufficient or otherwise lacking for my tastes.

It's kind of the same problem with reddit: there is good content there, but there's also some of the worst things imaginable outside of *chan or *leaks. I pay a lot of attention when I notice any of my teenage kids are looking at any subreddit.

[dark-star]

or, you just accept that different countries use different names for other countries.

Nobody calls Germany "Deutschland" outside of Germany (okay, outside of German-speaking countries)

Nobody calls Japan "Nihon" except people in Japan

Nobody calls Finland "Suomi" except people living there

...and the same goes for cities.

People probably still call it Turkey because they know how to pronounce it. Both the "ü" and the "iy" are very uncommon (and thus hard to pronounce) sounds for most of the world.

[ekkodur]

Nobody uses Germany for insulting Nobody uses Japan for insulting Nobody uses Finland for insulting

People pronounces harder country names(like Liechtenstein,Guinea-Bissau, Djibouti...) easily, I don't think it will be difficult to say Turkiye.

You can pronounce it like "Turquia" which is acceptable.

Here's how to pronunce better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfFZK6b2jtI&t=21s

[thih9]

Or you just accept that country names in English can change - and Turkey / Türkiye would not be the first to do so.

> Both the "ü" and the "iy" are very uncommon (and thus hard to pronounce) sounds for most of the world.

Then what about Liechtenstein? Kyrgyzstan? Côte d’Ivoire? Colombia-not-columbia? The list goes on.

[dark-star]

But that's the point: the name hasn't actually changed. It has always been called "Türkiye" by the people living there. What has changed is that they now want everyone else to call them by that name...

> Côte d’Ivoire

Nobody except french speaking countries call it that. It's called "Ivory Coast" in English, for example

[thih9]

Yes, they want that; why not do that then? Like with Czechia[1], Sri Lanka, the Netherlands and others?

Côte d’Ivoire is indeed also known as "Ivory Coast"; still, you can write a sentence in English with "Côte d’Ivoire" and it doesn't raise an eyebrow[2]. If that's not enough, there's Curaçao too.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_the_Czech_Republic#Ado...

[2]: https://www.state.gov/countries-areas/cote-divoire

[chucksta]

A substantial part of the US population isn't going to know where the Ivory coast is, even less so if you call it Côte d’Ivoire, or why you're saying it in French.

[thih9]

Would they be better with a different country though? To be fair, a substantial part of the US population couldn’t point Iran or Ukraine[1] on the map.

[1]: https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2022/02/0815180...

[actionfromafar]

You mean the Ivory Coast?