[Jugurtha]

I wanted to have some background on your earlier submission and checked it out. It turns out I have already commented on it 30 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40844376

This still stands. How many potential customers have you since talked with to de-risk the very "market existence" aspect first?

[changer1]

none. my go to market strategy is to talk with restaurant chains and tell them i'll cut down their costs and basically fight for their earnings. and i have someone in mind that i can probably reach out to has a restaurant chain spreads over 200 restaurants. the problem is i don't wanna go to talk to him just with the idea. and because my app would require some kind of technical infrastructure i don't wanna start talking with local restaurants. i feel like i can convince the big boys and the locals would follow them.

[Jugurtha]

>the problem is i don't wanna go to talk to him just with the idea.

Why? It doesn't have to be the idea itself. You can ask questions to check whether it is a problem first as opposed to talking about your solution. What if they're not aware it's a problem, or don't care about it? It's harder to sell a solution to a problem to someone who is not aware of the problem or does not care about the problem than it is to someone who's well aware, who cares about it, and who's tried to solve it but failed.

>and because my app would require some kind of technical infrastructure i don't wanna start talking with local restaurants.

Why?

>i feel like i can convince the big boys and the locals would follow them.

Feel? Wouldn't having actual conversations and learning things that are invisible to you right now beat that and shed light on many things?

[changer1]

1. he is just someone graduated from my school not someone i know personally my idea is just adding him at linkedin 2. i want restaurants to keep their menus and kinda "host" their menus themselves. and i won't be providing any customer service or something like that. because of that, i want corporate restaurants have tech infrastructure. 3. my only concern is about the product

[Jugurtha]

>1. he is just someone graduated from my school not someone i know personally

So? You'll talk with many people you didn't personally know. Case in point, we're having this conversation.

>2. i want restaurants to keep their menus and kinda "host" their menus themselves. and i won't be providing any customer service or something like that. because of that, i want corporate restaurants have tech infrastructure.

I'm sure you have reasons that lead you to this, and I'm sure you'll learn many things talking with people in the field.

>3. my only concern is about the product

So many built the best product people never used.

Please get out there and talk with people in a way they'll tell you about their problems and what they've done to solve them or not.

[changer1]

you are right but i just wanna start doing real stuff. build it. if it won't fit in the market so be it i don't care. i just wanna do something.

[Jugurtha]

I understand. You have the itch. You want to build it. This is completely understandable. However, it's not like you can, as you don't have the technical skills to do so. In other words, you're refusing to do something you can now, which is probe the market, because you're in hurry to do something you're not yet capable of doing...

What would you say, if you probe a little bit and get a slight understanding of problems, and then, learn how to code just that. Little by little, you learn and stay motivated because you're converging towards something real.

However, if you are completely indifferent to the outcome, then by all means, go ahead; programming is fun for its own sake. It's just that the premise of this conversation was misleading.