[jncfhnb]

I’m guessing the scale of this isn’t as large as the article implies but I suppose we’ll see

It’s been sort of reassuring to see how absolutely minimal of an effect Russian hackers have had on Ukraine these past years

[dralley]

It's minimal at the macro scale but pretty significant at the micro scale.

e.g. things like https://www.wired.com/story/russia-ukraine-frostygoop-malwar...

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Ukraine_power_grid_hack

It could certainly be worse. But the thing is, Russia has so many options for inflicting physical damage that the cyberattacks are relatively less important.

[jncfhnb]

I don’t really agree. These things are extremely small. An outage for 1-6 hours is negligible. Russia has failed all of its strategic objectives including an effort to maim Ukrainian power infrastructure.

I wouldn’t have been totally surprised if Russian cyber attacks were genuinely capable of disabling large parts of critical networks. But I’m glad to see they’re not.