[reify]

I sincerely hope not.

I have incisor teeth passed down to me from generation upon generation of my previous kin all the way back to my stoneage ancestors.

Incisors are specifically designed for tearing and ripping meat.

I eat real meat!

[guhcampos]

I'm a carnivore, but that's a very weak argument.

Even if it were true - it isn't, incisors are for cutting grass and fruits too - humans are more than anything, adaptable, and our survival and evolution sits on the top of that adaptability.

We are who we are because, between other things, we eat whatever is available and plenty.

If meat becomes a luxury product, and/or becomes even more dangerous to the environment to the point it's even less sustainable, the proper naturalist argument would be we shall need to adapt and stop eating meat altogether.

Às I said, though, I'm quite fond of my Picanha, and sincerely hope I can get to eat a sustainable version of it at some point in my life so I can do it with a bit less of a guilt.

[Beijinger]

"I eat real meat!"

Cultivated meat IS real meat from meat cells, it is not a meat imitation based on soy, wheat or whatever. Potentially much safer. Think of dead zombie disease or suspected cancer risk of beef.

https://www.gesundheitsindustrie-bw.de/en/article/news/new-p...

https://publichealth.gmu.edu/news/2024-03/should-you-be-worr...

Why do animals have to suffer for our meat supply?

“As long as there are slaughter houses there will always be battlefields.” ― Leo Tolstoy

(The quote sounds batter in other languages, since battlefields are "slaughter fields")

Best, Beijinger, not a vegetarian

[CuriouslyC]

Animals are part of this thing called the cycle of life that has been going on since near the beginning of the earth and will go on long after humanity has faded to dust. Being eaten is normal, it's part of how ecosystems are regulated, and everything dies anyhow so why not be a meal on the way out so that something else can live.

If you want to direct your rage somewhere, direct it at the people who force these animals into concentration camp like environments to maximize production. That's the true evil, not eating meat.

[Beijinger]

True, but I hoped we could become more than animals in the future.

[dotancohen]

Why? I like food and sex and raising my children. I _am_ an animal, even if I have mastered fire and language and agriculture.

[Beijinger]

Well, what has this to do with killing animals?

How did someone say? To kill someone, cut off his head and build a nice vase out of it is called culture. To have to go to prison for it is called civilization.

Besides that, raising animals for meat is terrible energy inefficient.

[dotancohen]

There is quite the difference between slaughtering an animal for food, and murder. Do you disagree?

[CuriouslyC]

Raising animals for meat is not energy inefficient. Those cows control the grasses and help with natural succession of trees and shrubs, while fertilizing the soil and providing nutrients for many animals. It costs literally nothing to leave a cow in a field, and it makes the field better.

What's energy inefficient is trying to grow a thousand cows in a feedlot.

[CuriouslyC]

In this thread: angry vegans trying to force their opinions on others with bad logic and downvotes.

[dotancohen]

Proverbs that rely on word play are fun, but not profound.

[silon42]

My dad preferably (to meat) eats cartilage, collagene, etc... off the bones (using a knife)... his dog then eats whatever is left. Anyone working on that?

[ofalkaed]

Cows have incisors, should cows also eat real meat? Incisors are more for cutting than tearing, canines do the tearing but human canines are too short to effectively tear. Cows also have canines.

I would give cultivated meat a try but I don't see it becoming a staple of my diet. A hamburger sounds good about now.

[InfiniteRand]

Don't kid yourself Jimmy, if a cow ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about.

[VMG]

aren't they bred to be very docile?

[chucksta]

Troy McClure - Simpsons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAxjqAfwfyI

[trhway]

why do you think that cultivated meat would ultimately be different? It will definitely be more customizable - Kobe, Angus, Wagyu - just select the corresponding option in the app.

And i see at some point convergence of technologies - human transplant growing would be pretty much the same tech, just the options in the app would be different, like how much kevlar to add into the heart muscle.

[NoGravitas]

Oh, yes, look at the incisors on a rabbit for instance. Huge, clearly rabbits are terrifying predators.

[ben_w]

I remember that documentary. The one with the Famous Historian.

;)

[ben_w]

I've had five teeth removed because my mouth is too small.

Kept one and turned it into a necklace.

[Galicarnax]

Tell that to gorillas.

[Larrikin]

Cool. The strongest argument for a boring diet is your teeth.

[a-french-anon]

"Boring"? Small lapsus, maybe? I mean, I know veganism is quite fashionable in some circles, but still.

[msla]

No, the strongest argument is a mix of "DON'T WANNA!" and "U Mad, Bro?"

It's the wonderful confection of oppositional defiant disorder and performative assholery that attempts to piss off the performer's mental model of some other person, usually for influencer points and political point-scoring.

[CuriouslyC]

Yeah, the people who have a more diverse diet are the ones with a "boring" diet. Interesting logic there friend.

[ben_w]

(1) Are meat diets really any more diverse? If you 1-1 substituted chicken for quorn, beef for soy, etc., that seems basically the same to me.

(2) If cultivated meat becomes affordable, it's actually made of meat. The same stuff, just from a vat rather than a body.

This can easily be much more diverse, because suddenly all the endangered species, a few extinct species, and human flesh(!) legally get on the menu.