[999900000999]

You want old finance companies.

In fact any company older that 30 probably won't care. I'm not a grey hair yet, but I actively hate startups. We aren't changing the world, we're helping cat photos load 3 milliseconds faster...

[jejeyyy77]

you don't want to make the world a better place by reinventing the way people do email??

[loco5niner]

Email is already good, please don't "fix" it.

[loco5niner]

Whoops, looks like I missed the sarcasm.

[Terretta]

> You want old finance companies. ... I actively hate startups.

Or consider some finance startups.

For us it's not age or title, it's ability to learn and apply, throughout a span of experience. We've found those who learned and applied while the commercial Internet was being made, the web being made, the cloud being made, are better equipped for learning and applying today's higher abstractions.

If you helped build the stuff of which it is made, you can better create new things on top of it.

[rightbyte]

> we're helping cat photos load 3 milliseconds faster...

No. You don't load cat pictures faster by surrounding it with spyware and choose the cat pic with data from said spyware.

[mathgeek]

The spyware is the revenue generator, but that’s limited by third parties, so we make the cat photos load faster to keep our internal metrics up and please stakeholders.

[throwaway211]

Why were cats not used for NFTs?

The question verges on the rhetorical.

[dpkirchner]

s/photos/ads and you got it

[pipes]

And finance companies offer better pensions and benefits than anywhere else I've seen in the UK. Plus real life useful domain knowledge. Now I'm older I prefer working with older staff, seems to be less bullshit.

[exhaze]

> I actively hate startups

Have you asked yourself why you hang out on this website given how you feel about startups?

Also, is it really fair to apply such a strong statement to all startups? Look at your screen and the browser you're using, the user interface concepts, the computer itself. Where do you think those came from?

[mepian]

>Look at your screen

Liquid crystal displays were invented at RCA, an old radio monopoly.

>and the browser you're using

CERN, a government-funded research lab.

>the user interface concepts

SRI, a government-funded research lab, and Xerox, an old copier monopoly.

>the computer itself

ENIAC was a US Army project.

[wrs]

For the browser, don’t forget the University of Illinois.

[RockRobotRock]

>Have you asked yourself why you hang out on this website given how you feel about startups?

Maybe they just like technology.

[greentxt]

Is that ok though? Some would say "that's not what hn is for." I've read that a lot. Usually the follow up is something about folks being intellectually curious, not just people who "like technology." I think this comes up a lot and isn't so clear cut as many claim it to be.

[stetrain]

Is what ok? Liking technology? Using HN? I'm not sure why we should be a gatekeeper of what someone likes or whether they hang out on this site.

The HN guidelines cover what topics are relevant to submit as new posts here, and cover civility and usefulness of comments. That seems good enough.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[ipaddr]

Plenty of different groups and one of them are developers burned out after a startup job.

[999900000999]

Fine.

I hate *working for* startups. It's fun when your young, not when you have bills.

[stetrain]

"Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity."