[simion314]

Does it amazes you that they gain less then 1 square kilometers even with their Chinese bikes and turtle tanks?

not sure why everyone shits on Russian shovels, the RuZZian special forces recorded themselves how they train to fight close combat with shovels, a shovel is a weapon. Anyway the real quote was something like "weapons and shovels" but the Ruscists could only read the last part. The Zeds also claim they fight NATO, I say to all the Zeds please attack a NATO country then you can claim you fight NATO - because now you fight just your little brother that gas some old Western weapons and better intel, the difference is that Ukraine is not Chechnya so is harder to invade them, the drunk bear found a big enough adversary to break it's mouth.

[riehwvfbk]

Why does this remind me of that time the USA got defeated by some guerillas in the Vietnamese jungle? They succeeded in plucking some feathers from the arrogant eagle's tail. Perhaps those guerillas had some help?

[simion314]

"what about USA/Israel" I am not a supporter of USA military operations so I did not study them, but if youget reminded how USA lost then it means you know Ruzzia has no chance to actually really win (NATO is already larger, many Ruzzian fascists are dead, Ruzzia is getting demilitarized ... )

[medo-bear]

I think no party to the war has a chance to really win. The biggest tragedy though is that whatever happens and regardless if anyone wins militarily, for many years (decades) after the war people living in Ukraine will not feel like they won anything. You can be sure of that

[simion314]

Sure, but you think surrendering and becoming the next Chechnya is something Ukrainians should offer their children?

[medo-bear]

Men from both countries are going to great lengths to avoid conscription, as they should! Sending people to war against their will is pure evil.

[riehwvfbk]

Chechnya is/was very much a part of Russia and was not contested territory. Yes, it was acquired through conquest, a long time ago. If you are going to bring that up, then USA should give California back to Mexico.

[simion314]

I am concerned about people not lands or what empire has right to what land. The people wanted freedom and Putin created some false flag operations to start a second war, today those people instead of having their children live in peace are forced to see them fighting for the criminal that killed their parents.

Only imperialists bring historical claims to the discussion, for people in civilized countries is not a good argument that you claim you conquered and genocided some lands sometimes in the past, all the empires have fallen except the Russian one and there will be a time when the opressed people should get their freedom.

So dear comrade if Californians want to fight for their independence from an opressor I will support the people aand not the imperialistic coward old man that would want to genocide them again.

[thriftwy]

> next Chechnya

In the sense that Ukrainians then get to invade Kazakhstan around 2040 on behalf of Russia, and film Tik Tok videos about how nasty of fighters they are?

(This might as well happen)