[gargs]

Surely, Apple will respond by artificially hampering one or more of their products in the EU and hence take away even the slightest reason to upgrade hardware in the name of Apple Intelligence.

Customers need a company that acts and reasons like an adult.

[aikinai]

You’re obviously insinuating that they are delaying features in the EU just to be petty, but the ostensible reason is plenty compelling on its own.

The EU regulations will require them to do insane amounts of custom work building a public API for Apple Intelligence. Imagine how hard it will be to make that interface secure, private, not terrible for users.

The other features like mirroring are much simpler, but still, is it worth making a public interface and taking the security and privacy risks just to offer the feature in the EU?

Every new feature in the EU is now a massive liability, so of course they’re going to be more cautious what they release.

[threeseed]

The idea that any third party app could (a) record my screen 24/7 in the background or (b) have full access to all of the data on my phone would be beyond unacceptable.

Everyone rightly criticised Microsoft for providing such a capability and they would do the same with Apple as well.

EU would be insane to push Apple on this.

[ginko]

>The idea that any third party app could (a) record my screen 24/7 in the background or (b) have full access to all of the data on my phone would be beyond unacceptable.

Such an app would be breaking GDPR.

[alt227]

> Such an app would be breaking GDPR.

Obviously not

https://www.rewind.ai/

GDPR has no bearing on what apps can and cant do, as long as they ask you permission for their use of personal data first.

[ginko]

So don't give permission? (or don't install the app in the first place) I thought this was about malicious apps that collected private data behind your back.

[threeseed]

This comment would have made sense in the late 90s.

Today we have decades of experience that the majority of users are not capable of making informed decisions when it comes to topics like app permissions. Especially the flow on implications e.g. allow the app to record the screen could mean your bank details are exposed.

[alt227]

> I thought this was about malicious apps that collected private data behind your back

No, where did you get that idea from?

[alt227]

> The EU regulations will require them to do insane amounts of custom work building a public API

Apple are the biggest company in the world. If they wanted they could hire 1000 developers to throw at this, and it wouldnt even dent a single percent of their profit.

Apple could very easily do this if they wanted to, heck they could do absolutely anything they want with their money and clout, but they dont.

[aikinai]

You can’t do anything you want just by adding developers. If it were that easy, the entire software industry would look completely different. And that’s not even accounting for the inevitable system-wide repercussions of the work.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

[alt227]

Im aware of the man month, and Im aware that you cant just throw any deverlopers at any coding problem.

However I believe Apple easily has the money, developers, and ability to do this if they wanted. Look at all the other amazing things they do, anyone who argues this is hard for them is delusional IMO.

[sashank_1509]

There’s a difference between working to build an amazing product that wows people, and working to fulfill mind numbing regulations created by people who couldn’t run a coffee shop. One is soul enriching, another is soul crushing. If Apple wants to torture its developers into doing soul numbing, slow moving work, I guess they can but the default response would be to not do that and give their developers more meaningful tasks that leaves them and Apple happy.

[slashdave]

Sure, but why not just cut out the middlemen? Just install a EU representative in each Apple office, and they can watch over all the developers and dictate features.

[llm_nerd]

The notion that Apple is punishing one of the largest markets on the planet by disincentivizing them from upgrading to the next generation of hardware seems like something you didn't really think through. The AI thing will be the #1 selling point of the 16 and onwards, and you can be assured that Apple wants it in the EU.

Apple, as with most mega-cos, needs to be reigned in and corralled by the governments of the world. But let's be real that the EU in some of their actions has grossly overreached and offered up impractical demands, while strangely targeting only American companies.