[crote]

The interesting part is that perception is shaped by language. The Ancient Greeks did not have a word for blue, which led to things like the sky being described as "wine-colored" or "bronze". Similarly, the English "blue" is split into two in Russian: light blue (голубой – goluboy) and deep/dark blue (синий – siniy), a speaker has to choose between them when describing something.

The wavelengths may have always existed but colors only become a thing when we draw the arbitrary lines between them.

[labster]

In English, speakers are forced to make the same light/dark distinction between pink/red and orange/brown as well. I don’t think most native speakers of English think of orange as the same as light brown.

[lazide]

Ah hah! This explains something.

I’ve literally had an argument with someone where they insisted burnt umber was not orange or orange like.

Which, uh - maybe? But c’mon. It’s totally somewhat Orange!

[wruza]

You may be interested in https://blog.xkcd.com/2010/05/03/color-survey-results/ if not seen it yet. If you desaturate the main chart to around 70%, #8a3324 lands onto a red-brown-orange triangle. I think I agree with that someone, cause at 70% the whole orange region sort of bleaks away.