In English, speakers are forced to make the same light/dark distinction between pink/red and orange/brown as well. I don’t think most native speakers of English think of orange as the same as light brown.
You may be interested in https://blog.xkcd.com/2010/05/03/color-survey-results/ if not seen it yet. If you desaturate the main chart to around 70%, #8a3324 lands onto a red-brown-orange triangle. I think I agree with that someone, cause at 70% the whole orange region sort of bleaks away.
I’ve literally had an argument with someone where they insisted burnt umber was not orange or orange like.
Which, uh - maybe? But c’mon. It’s totally somewhat Orange!