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by mpalmer 738 days ago
Our "real" allies don't include NATO signatories? Germany isn't threatened by Russia?

Absolutely hilarious and ahistorical. Anyone playing the silly rhetorical games you're playing isn't trying to convince anyone with reasoned arguments.
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rayiner 738 days ago
Most NATO members are not real allies. Turkey or Greece or Slovenia could fall into the ocean and it wouldn’t materially Americans. NATO had a purpose once, but it’s just become a vehicle other countries to outsource their defense to the U.S.

You want to talk about history? How about: for 70 years American interventionism has resulted in an unbroken streak of mistaken wars that have sapped America’s wealth. Thats where your definition of “ally” has gotten us.

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dctoedt 738 days ago
> Most NATO members are not real allies. ... [F]or 70 years American interventionism has resulted in an unbroken streak of mistaken wars ....

If only we had a Star Trek TOS "Guardian of Forever" time portal to show us what wars were avoided by what you call American "interventionism."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_on_the_Edge_of_Foreve...

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JojoFatsani 738 days ago
Hey we won the Persian Gulf War. Even if we didn’t pay the tab.
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mpalmer 738 days ago
Hah. "My" definition. Okay. That you don't see the purpose of NATO today, or the importance of smaller member states to the overall alliance, is reason enough to call it a day.
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