[rayiner]

Most NATO members are not real allies. Turkey or Greece or Slovenia could fall into the ocean and it wouldn’t materially Americans. NATO had a purpose once, but it’s just become a vehicle other countries to outsource their defense to the U.S.

You want to talk about history? How about: for 70 years American interventionism has resulted in an unbroken streak of mistaken wars that have sapped America’s wealth. Thats where your definition of “ally” has gotten us.

[dctoedt]

> Most NATO members are not real allies. ... [F]or 70 years American interventionism has resulted in an unbroken streak of mistaken wars ....

If only we had a Star Trek TOS "Guardian of Forever" time portal to show us what wars were avoided by what you call American "interventionism."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_on_the_Edge_of_Foreve...

[JojoFatsani]

Hey we won the Persian Gulf War. Even if we didn’t pay the tab.

[mpalmer]

Hah. "My" definition. Okay. That you don't see the purpose of NATO today, or the importance of smaller member states to the overall alliance, is reason enough to call it a day.