[kris_lujanovic]

its from one of the content moderators. they are all hired and managed through recruiting agency. there was over 10k of us while I was there. and most people are just kids with one week of on boarding doing short term contract. whoever did it is blackballed by biggest recruiting agency in the world. way to get your life crazy difficult over reddit points

[erremerre]

My favourite are the one that leaked a tank data on a discord just to prove that they were right.

[duped]

The number of state secrets protected by a 20 year old E-4 whose only motivation is to not get chewed out (and/or jail) is probably staggering.

[finnthehuman]

https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2651728-war-thunder-military...

[throwaway48476]

A lot of these tank "leaks" are just PDF's of manuals you can buy on ebay. They're restricted but legal to own. It only becomes illegal when you export them to other countries.

[duped]

I believe what GP is referring to is the Air Force National Guardsman who's going to jail for leaking classified intelligence on a discord server to prove he was right. I don't think it was actually about tanks, just that it happened in a WarFrame discord (or something like that).

[lotsofpulp]

Being prosecuted and imprisoned by the federal government is far more motivation than being terminated from a low paying job.

[dmix]

> whoever did it is blackballed by biggest recruiting agency in the world. way to get your life crazy difficult over reddit points

I think you're overvaluing the power of recruiting agencies

[alickz]

> way to get your life crazy difficult over reddit points

"Google says it was "non-intentional" because they only showed it to a friend", I don't think they purposely leaked it for internet clout

[dylan604]

Great, "it was only a friend" is the same thing anyone says when caught revealing a secret that was meant to "remain between us". That's a load of horseshit for an excuse.

[beeboobaa3]

so youtube content moderators can just view anyone's private videos willy nilly?

[pixl97]

Yes, this is typically how moderation works on any platform. Unless it is encrypted it's not "private".

[bombcar]

If it's a truly private video, it should be only visible by moderation when logged in as a moderator.

If it was an unlisted video, the moderator would just need to know the reference code (URL) for the video, and could share it with anyone.

[jabroni_salad]

As mentioned in the article, the original leak was a screenshot from admin.youtube.com

[beeboobaa3]

No, it's not. Typically moderators can view content that needs moderation, i.e. is visible to other users. There is no reason to give them access to all private videos, which are different from unlisted.

[pixl97]

Yes it is. You can keep saying "no it's not" until the cows come home, but every single bit of unencrypted content (and possibly well known hashes of encrypted content) is subject to moderation on any large corporate property.

[jandrese]

If you have confidential data don't upload it to Youtube, or really anybody else's servers.

[mike_d]

They can view videos they are assigned to review, but they can't just pull up a random private video.

[b3lvedere]

I never knew Youtube did child labour?

[vel0city]

In many states its legal for people 16-18 to work, usually with limitations on hours worked per shift/week an what kind of jobs they can do.

Even then, many older people in the US will call someone 18-20 "kids", even though they're technically adults.

As a US English speaker I took it to mean "a bunch of young and immature people, probably on their first job" when I heard "most people are just kids", not that they're literally hiring 12 year olds or something.

[tredre3]

In all 50 states it is legal for people 16+ to work full time.

[vel0city]

I can't say I know the law in every state so I typically don't say absolutes like that. If that's true, thanks for clarifying/correcting.

Also, it looks like you're right for at least the states I normally deal with. Looking back the first job I had started when I was still 15, I must have just blended those shift schedule restrictions during the rest of my time working as 16-17 as well. So yeah, I guess that's probably true.

[gwbas1c]

> Even then, many older people in the US will call someone 18-20 "kids", even though they're technically adults.

In my head I felt like my peers in college were "kids". I didn't feel like we were "adults" until we were in our mid-20s.

[mrguyorama]

Kids are literally dying in Tyson affiliated chicken plants down south and nobody is going to prison.

Why WOULDN'T youtube use child labor if it's cheaper?

[vel0city]

Are you arguing we should just assume every single employer uses child labor because some places use child labor?

I take it you're also arguing Y Combinator also uses child labor? Mozilla? Spotify? Your employer? I mean, why WOULDN'T they?

I imagine you probably probably hire child labor as well. After all, why WOULDN'T you?

Its probably child labor that keeps this site running. After all, why WOULDN'T they hire kids to keep this site up?

Or maybe there are reasons why people avoid child labor in many places.

[mrguyorama]

https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20230206-2

Violating labor laws with children is actually really common, and plenty of places DO abuse young labor. It is NOT avoided

Do you think all the workers in your company's call center in some random country are all truthfully 18? Hell, do you think none of them are working against their will?

[vel0city]

Some places hiring child labor != all places hiring child labor.

I do agree there's too much illegal child labor going on in the US and around the world, but its a stretch to assume everyone hires child labor.

Otherwise, why won't you stop hiring child labor? You've probably hired someone to do some kind of work around your home at least once, I take it you most definitely hired children then. After all, apparently everyone does it.

Why WOULDN'T mrguyorama hire child labor to do the plumbing around his home or to do his lawn work?!

[mrguyorama]

>Why WOULDN'T mrguyorama hire child labor to do the plumbing around his home or to do his lawn work?!

If I had a lawn and a neighborhood with young children who were bored during the summer, I WOULD hire a child to mow it, and in fact I am hiring a child (girlfriend's younger brother) to watch our cat during a vacation!

Before child labor was significantly stamped out through aggressive labor laws, average people hired child labor all the time. Little timmy was out selling papers, little stephanie selling flowers, Paul was cleaning the chimney, and every other kid was working in the coal mine or textile mill, for absurdly low wages (even for the time!), with absurdly high injury rates, for 12 hour days.

Child labor was HUGE, and if we don't aggressively stamp it out, it WILL creep back into what we largely consider normal. Southern US states are already trying to push laws onto the books that weaken the laws against child labor.

I don't know how to make this more clear: If Youtube could get away with hiring 10k literal children and pay them peanuts to do all the moderation work, they would, conscience and honor and ethics be damned, like they always are.

I mean christ, look at Roblox!

[b3lvedere]

When companies can get away with it (read: they abide by all laws) why would they not? It is cheaper and money is prime directive number one. Do you actually think companies make money and have a finely tuned moral compass at the same time?

I made the parent comment exactly for this discussion. Do not assume corporations have a moral compass. They do not care and will outsource each and everything if that is cheaper than handling stuff themselves.Why is it chaeaper to pay some people to get the law on your side than actually start doing normal human moral behaviour? Why can they actually outsource responsibility at all? Strange planet we live on.

[andrepd]

Have you seen those toy review channels or those family youtubers?