[lambdaxyzw]

I want the war in Ukraine to end, and. There are two options: to let Putin get what he want and risk my country being next, and to help Ukraine. Do you have other suggestions? Of course I would love it if Russia tomorrow decided to say "whoops sorry that was an accident" and retreated, but I find this highly unlikely.

[protomolecule]

What makes you think your country will be next?

[lambdaxyzw]

I appreciate the downvotes, but I'm honestly looking forward to hearing a better alternative (than helping Ukraine financially and with weapon shipments). I imagine people expressing "anti-war" opinions live far away from the frontline, don't have to worry about their country being next, and it's easy for them to say "just end the war". But maybe I'm wrong. So please when downvoting also spare a minute to share what your preferred solution is.

[effie]

I didn't downvote. There are alternative approaches. For example, U.S. can cease support as loss of Ukraine is not really a big problem for them, as long as Russia stays in non-NATO countries; Europe+UK can then say we won't be able to keep this together without U.S. and say Ukrainians, if you want, make a deal with Russia, and who wants to flee, you're welcome in Europe. Russia gets Ukraine and the small part of population there unable to leave or those with russian-compatible thought processes. No further war necessary for some time (in other words, we get some pause, which we will use to arm the f up).

This scenario sucks, shows weakness, it has its own risks, russian-controlled Ukraine is a big security and money problem for neighbouring states, and is not necessary while Ukraine can fight with western weapons, and thus nobody relevant wants to try it as of yet. But anti-war naives do not think that far ahead.

If Ukraine runs out of soldiers, or U.S. backs out, some variant of this may however get on the table and we will be subjected to massive militarization.

[protomolecule]

"with russian-compatible thought processes"

What's the supposed to mean?

[effie]

Those people who think the things Russians do in Ukraine are good for them.