[effie]

I didn't downvote. There are alternative approaches. For example, U.S. can cease support as loss of Ukraine is not really a big problem for them, as long as Russia stays in non-NATO countries; Europe+UK can then say we won't be able to keep this together without U.S. and say Ukrainians, if you want, make a deal with Russia, and who wants to flee, you're welcome in Europe. Russia gets Ukraine and the small part of population there unable to leave or those with russian-compatible thought processes. No further war necessary for some time (in other words, we get some pause, which we will use to arm the f up).

This scenario sucks, shows weakness, it has its own risks, russian-controlled Ukraine is a big security and money problem for neighbouring states, and is not necessary while Ukraine can fight with western weapons, and thus nobody relevant wants to try it as of yet. But anti-war naives do not think that far ahead.

If Ukraine runs out of soldiers, or U.S. backs out, some variant of this may however get on the table and we will be subjected to massive militarization.

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"with russian-compatible thought processes"

What's the supposed to mean?

[effie]

Those people who think the things Russians do in Ukraine are good for them.