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by twarge 757 days ago
Linguistic evidence of the same timeline.

https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=64074

The controversy claimed is entirely overblown. Longer timelines for migration have been discussed widely for quite a while.

I completely understand not wanting to bother with peer review but generally your peers want a good result to be published.

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Yeah I think the scientist just has a chip on his shoulder or the journalist wanted to sell a more interesting story. I think the real controversy boils down to this:

> But the geological record is like reading the CliffsNotes version of a book, and he was frustrated by an “unconformity” in the sediment layers where thousands of years were missing, like someone had ripped out those chapters.

It’s an island and they’re not the most reliable for dating sediment layers - they’re not exactly closed systems.

I haven’t read his book but I can totally see a case for skepticism over the precise dating. It’s a common trick/error to play fast and loose with carbon dating calibration standards and sample collection to get better numbers. It’s hard to get right in the best of times and the results have to be taken in context.

> The controversy claimed is entirely overblown. Longer timelines for migration have been discussed widely for quite a while.

Are you saying that: Effective, significant resistance to pre-Clovis theories wasn't a thing in the latter 20th cent ?

The current year is 2024. There are phds out there who were born after 2000.
Sure but a mindset that is dominant enough to influence the direction of research can reasonably be expected to persist - even though there's turnover in the field.
If you entered academia in 2000 when this became the newly accepted wisdom you'd be around 50 now.

Face it you're just old and still think 2000 was four years ago.

> Face it you're just old

Again, sure. That's how I know professional mindsets can age a lot slower than people.

> you ... think 2000 was four years ago.

Hardly. Want time to go slow? Care for 5 kids + disabled spouse on your own. It makes regular years seem like mindset years.