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by tptacek 5132 days ago
Reading this feels like accidental time travel. When did this start happening?

$40,000-$60,000/sqmile/year is an extremely reasonable number. Chicago has 50+ officers per square mile, implying tens of patrolling officers per square mile; the fully loaded cost of a single police officer is six figures, with potentially explosive defined-benefit pensions and benefits just to make things fun.

Moreover, like in many big cities (read Peter Moskos _Cop In The Hood_ for details), the squad car patrol tactics used in Chicago do a terrible job of suppressing gun crime. Over a 24 hour period this holiday weekend, we had 25 gunshot injuries (god knows how many illegal firearms were discharged above and beyond that). The police can't be everywhere, and the patrol process keeps them mostly in rolling squad cars.

And obviously, the overwhelming majority of gun crime in the city of Chicago are concentrated in a small percentage of our square miles: Austin, Garfield Park, and (particularly) Englewood and Chatham. Which makes systems like this cost-effective to roll out, and, particularly, easy to pilot.

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The technology is impressive. The precision of the information (location, time, pattern) can be transformative in how police responds to high crime areas. Right now, I can imagine that the quality of information degrade in a game of telephone from the caller to the dispatcher to the patroller (and even more so in HCAs). Meanwhile the patroller has to be balancing the issue of investigating a false positive and wading into a danger area.

Panoticon here we come....

A Chicago suburbs resident here: You would think that as the system scales up, your cost per square mile would drop, as you're automating as much of a analysis and detection as possible.
One little bird (presumably a Chicago cop):

By my totals 17 shot on Sunday, 7 of them in 011. With 11 more starting at midnight to 0800 monday morning. The blackberry was ringing all night. 2 of the "victims" dead so far.

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2012/05/not-one-shooting-s...

Note the scare quotes on "victims." Our informant continues:

The city should embrace all the violence and make it a tourist attraction. See if you can come to Chicago and make it out alive! Have tour buses go through the ghetto and stop at all the crime scenes. Get your picture with the body! Only 20 bucks. Better make it 30, 10 goes to the alderman of the ward the body is in. That way the visitors can get a small taste of how business is conducted in Chicago. As a special treat you may also get robbed at gun point during your tour. And if you want to see the indigenous population acting normally in its own habitat start using your Iphones where you can be seen. But you will be charged extra if you get apple picked! End the tour with specially trade marked Chalkie shirts with all proceed going to hire some real leadership at the FOP so we don't get screwed on our contracts. And give one buck from each tour to a special fund for the kids. ITS FOR THE CHILDREN!!!

God I love the Internets...

My 25 came from the same source: Second City Cop blog. They're a collection of anonymous Chicago police.

The scare quotes refer to gang shootings.

SCC tends strongly towards alarmism and, often, hyperbole. Your odds of getting shot in Chicago, even if you go to Woodlawn for Lem's barbeque, is extremely low. Unfortunately, your odds of getting shot if you're a kid living 24/7 in Englewood or Humboldt Park are unacceptably high. Also: lots of racist cops. Blue collar job.

Well! If you know SCC, you must love the Box Chevy Phantom! And Chalkie! And I'm sure you've seen the famous Cabrini-Green thread:

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2010/10/end-of-cabrini-gre...

And you must have loved this discussion of "Jared," "Brent," and their fellow Occupy bombers:

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2012/05/bombers-pussies.ht...

Extremely low? Compared to what? What it should be? What should be your odds of being shot in a major city, anyway? San Francisco is extremely safer than Englewood, and earlier this year my wife and kids still found themselves in the middle of some kind of Norteno-Sureno shootout. They didn't get hit, though! So no harm, no foul.

Alarmist, certainly. Certainly alarmist compared to your normal Chicago sources of information, which as I recall insisted that the beaches on a certain day last summer were closed due to "temperatures in the '90s:"

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2011/06/wall-of-lies-crumb...

It's a fact that I'm not a blue-collar fellow and I don't have a blue-collar job or a blue-collar family. And no, I don't think that if I were posting comments on SCC, I'd be quite as cavalier in referring to "the animal," "mutts," etc. It does get the point across, however.