[godelski]

Kinda off topic, but I know a lot of people here use keybase for verification, but don't they have a slack alternative that's both free and private? (Assuming zoom didn't kill either of those aspects) Anyone use it as an actual slack replacement?

[freeqaz]

Is anybody using Zoom as a Slack alternative? Or Keybase as an alternative? Or are you asking if there is something else?

Perhaps I'm lacking context but I couldn't figure out your question and I'd like to help you find an answer!

[godelski]

A sibling comment responded to me saying that it was pretty much dead, but that I was thinking of this[0]. You'll notice it looks a lot like Slack and that there's full teams support with full E2EE. And unlike slack you keep your history and other stuff. But I guess it is Open Source so maybe someone could revive it?

[0] https://book.keybase.io/chat

[dewey]

Key base had a chat product (wouldn’t call it a Slack competitor though)

[mdaniel]

I believe you're thinking of https://book.keybase.io/chat and its https://github.com/keybase/managed-bots#keybase-managed-bots friend but at least based on my experience on Android I can assure you that Keybase is dead. They DGAF, find another platform

[godelski]

Yeah that's kinda the impression I got but was hoping it wasn't or there was an alternative. Thanks.

Is this one Open Source too? I wasn't sure which project it was under. But if it is then maybe someone else can revive it because I'd love to have a Slack alternative that is E2EE.

[mdaniel]

It was my recollection that Matrix had support for E2EE, although in fairness I believe XMPP does, too, but as an extension and thus finding compatible implementations and clients could be a hassle

While digging up supporting links, I was reminded that Element exists from the creators of the Matrix protocol, and while their website is an MBA-buzzword-athon their communities page does cite E2EE <https://element.io/communities#:~:text=secured%20with%20end-...> and they are permissively licensed https://github.com/orgs/element-hq/repositories

[godelski]

My understanding is that no one has built a slack like client for matrix. Whereas at least keybase has something that looks like slack with teams, channels, and threads. But I've only played with it in a sandbox.

I mean there's lots of open source stuff. Signal is open source and people still complain about it being centralized but just won't run their own servers and connect them together. So I think open source isn't enough. It takes people working on things.

[Arathorn]

Element looks as much like Slack as Keybase did…

[meetbryce]

definitely off topic haha. i've got no idea though